DJ Marky Marc 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 QUOTE would suggest however that the entertainment available to younger people is not good enough and a large percentage stay at home using the available media entertainmnts there ? So the clubs have to wake up and provide a reason for the latest generation of lard ass over weight teenagers to come out and do some physical exersise on the dance floor... young People only like RnB becuase they are too lazy to dance to anything faster http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
C.S 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 MarkyQUOTE So the clubs have to wake up and provide a reason for the latest generation of lard ass over weight teenagers to come out and do some physical exersise on the dance floor... Exactly but why just clubs,djs also have a major responsibilty in this. QUOTE young People only like RnB becuase they are too lazy to dance to anything faster http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif I thought so too but i had a great gig a couple of weeks ago where the punters were between 18 and 22 and it was funky house and trance all the way. I blame world of warcraft for the lard ass syndrome amongst teenagers. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/rolleyes.gif I will try anything,once! The Cornish will arise again ! Manager of the Andy Harris Fan Club. Keep pasties Cornish Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Marky Marc 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 QUOTE Exactly but why just clubs,djs also have a major responsibilty in this. Most clubs force the DJs into playing what they think is aceptable and wont allow DJs to do there own thing.. why? becuase there are very few DJs who can work a Dance floor and read the crowed. They also dont pay enough money for a Pro DJ to bother with club work.. last week I was offered a residencey at a club and they wanted to pay me £110 to work from 9pm till 3am plus a long drive... why would I do that when I can work 8pm till midnight doing a local wedding for £300.... Go to any bar full of young lads and half of them clam they are DJs all willing to work for the £110 , but they DJ to a wall most weeks and then one or two make it to a club and can only play what they pre-program in there practice sessions at home.... people get fed up with the non flexable bedroom DJ, same stuff in the same order week in week out... Working a Dance floor is somthing the mobile jocks I have met from this forum seem to be realy good at. manly due to the different sorts of gigs they do week in week out.. but these jocks are happy with the money they are getting and the lack of trouble they get in comparison to a flea pit english night club... Dont get me wrong its fun to do a club like this once in a while but as the club needs to attract the punters it also needs to be a place the DJ feels they want to work.. if the DJ is unhappy then this comes accross in there style and so the people are unhappy... <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Dukesy 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 MM has just exampled the majority of clubs I've worked or had the 'pleasure'. I think in some cases it's a bit more than the DJ not being able to read a crowd. From experience, some venue management insist that certain tracks or artistes are not allowed to be played, such as the Prodigy (re-mixed or not). Never mind if the tunes are popular. The cause and effect of 'rules' are evident....the DJ can be the scapegoat, etc. Whereas many DJs would like to simply perform as a DJ, there will always be variables and elements that take any factor of 'DJ responsibility' away. Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisPointon 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 I must admit that one of the reasons I left the club was down to that reason. ie the venue manager spent too much time overseeing me as the DJ and interfering!. At the time I just put it down to the fact that he was an (ex) Mobile DJ himself! - however Marc and Dan make the same point, so it may be common to ALL venue managers and not just the Ex-DJ's. Club work around here is poorly paid. I moved onto another club for a while in another area which paid £70 for the same hours, then I went back to Mobile Work which actually paid better than both!. Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Marky Marc 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 QUOTE it may be common to ALL venue managers modern club/venue manager is not like your old managers who had a say in what was going on, he is somone who is working for a larger company like Rank or first lesure. they are just company yes men in most cases.. the area manager checks up on them .. and makes sure they follow the insturctions etc... so we now have a situation where I can walk into any of the clubs in the group, hear the same music see the same decor and buy the same drinks... now dont know about you guys but thats just boring..... <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
C.S 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 I must be very lucky because the club owners i work for hire me to decide the music ! I will try anything,once! The Cornish will arise again ! Manager of the Andy Harris Fan Club. Keep pasties Cornish Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisPointon 0 Posted May 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 QUOTE (C.S @ May 16 2006, 05:50 PM) I must be very lucky because the club owners i work for hire me to decide the music ! You are indeed blessed Mr S http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/omg.gif Link to post Share on other sites
Dukesy 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Since this topic was started, is the decline still on, has it levelled off or are things improving? Link to post Share on other sites
Disco24-7 0 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 IMHO I believe that a large amount of club owners try to pass on the extra overheads of running a later license to the punters...which equates to higher drink prices and entry fees. If I was running a club in these 'times' - I would realise that for once the punters really do have a choice...basically the gravy train for the club owners has hit the buffers...ahh shame...lol. To put things back on track? Bar prices at reasonable Pub levels...NOT TOP END LOCAL TRENDY BAR PRICES! Entry fee? Nope...free entry at the very least until 12 midnight. Decent well known local DJ's (or if you got the money National DJ's) on a fairly regular basis. And lastly...which may seem very strange, great facilities...Ladies love clean tidy toilets where they can have a chin wag...blokes like to take a p+ss without a pool of pee around there feet. Also having some late night food helps, although a burger van outside the venue will probably not help matters. I guess the final thing must be safety...all of us like to feel safe when we leave a club, so a dedicated cab company with a spotless reputation should be used (direct dial phone in club). Re. G @Disco24-7 PS// Make the punters feel special...then they will return! Link to post Share on other sites
UKHero 0 Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 QUOTE (DJ Marky Marc @ May 15 2006, 11:52 AM) QUOTE if you stick to one certain type of music then you narrow your audience and therefore you earning possibilities works both ways... if you play different kinds of music people will avoid the place in search of a place that plays what they like... if they all play the same bits of everything then there is no reason the leave the pub your already in.... in my home town there is a bar that plays only house music... its full all night till closing.. there is a yates,RSVP a litten Tree, envy night club and 2 or 3 other places playing cheesey stuff... they are fighting over the people and bar takes are down... there is the Agincourt that plays indiee / rock.. its full all night as the other venues dont play that kind of thing.. round the corner is el picante.. £3 a pint and latin house music all night , full to bursting point on a weekend.... and still the other pubs and clubs are strugling to make money.... why? becuase they dont have a style or identity.. they are generic.. same music each week, no imagination.. they are there to sell alcopop to teenagers and the public are voting with there feet.. Spot on with more compotition you have to narrow your field down to a niech market... This is what radio had to do a few years back and in some ways TV... Although I am probably a chart and cheese style DJ I can see the need for specialist nights.... And hopefully I can get back to doing a great 60's 70's & 80's night.. If done correctly there is room for us all out there.... Nik Niks Roadshow Link to post Share on other sites
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