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#1 otobot

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Posted 03 August 2006 - 07:34 AM

hey! newbie here! im planning on gettin a pair of cdj100s n a djm300...thing is a friend of mine played with a cdj200s and he told me (and according to reviews) it can play mp3s while the 100s cant...and not only does it read mp3 cds...but also u can plug in your laptop and just search n play from there...no mp3 stick capability though...anyways, can you guys confirm this? thanks...plus, for a starter, should i get the djm400 or im good with the 300s?

#2 Gary

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Posted 03 August 2006 - 08:58 AM

It was un-earthed a few months ago that the CDJ-100 was only shipped from Pioneer with a domestic (home use only) warranty. The Warranty situation on the CDJ-200 hasnt been clarifying yet here on DJU, although Pioneers website does describe the CDJ-200 as "the CDJ-200 will appeal to the serious home DJ" huh.gif

The CDJ-200 does have rudimentary MP3 playback and basic DJ manipulation of MP3s that are burnt to a CD, however, theres no "plug in your laptop and just search n play from there" - Pioneer's only player that did anything with a PC was their rather unsuccessful DMP-555 - which recently suffered/benefited from a 50% price cut in the states a few months back.

If you're looking at plugging a professional controller into a domestic laptop, then theres either the rather pricey Hercules and/or DAC style controllers which are usually dedicated to very specific "DJ" software packages - eg: Controller "A" witll only work with Software "A".

Alternatively, in September you'll be able to ditch the laptop and use something like the Numark Director D2 - for about 425 - a professional device that plugs into memory sticks/pen drives and external PC harddrives and doesnt rely on dodgy Windows, hot lappys, DLL files, conflicting drivers, virus's, software incompatibilities and is really designed for (cliche warning) The rigors of the road..

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Posted 03 August 2006 - 09:32 AM

woah...long read there but very useful...thanks alot man!

if thats the case, then the only way to play mp3s on the 200s are through cdrs then, right? and i just asked my friend again...had a misunderstanding...he was saying to plug the laptop to the mixer, not the 200s...to ANY mixer, so i can even the 100s to play mp3s?? true? not sure about this though...

the Numark Director D2 is a bit expensive for me though since im only starting...i just want the cdj100 since i have played around with it before and really liked it...but the reason i might go for the 200 is because of the mp3 function...which is really important to me...

what you guys think about this one then?
http://www.djbooth.n...nt/reviews/C12/
dual cd players...any good?

Edited by otobot, 03 August 2006 - 09:46 AM.


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Posted 03 August 2006 - 10:15 AM

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yes

but depends on what you want to do....

if your planning on going moble disco then get a dual deck and rack it in the same case as your mixer...

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Posted 03 August 2006 - 10:52 AM

QUOTE (otobot @ Aug 3 2006, 10:32 AM)
if thats the case, then the only way to play mp3s on the 200s are through cdrs then, right? and i just asked my friend again...had a misunderstanding...he was saying to plug the laptop to the mixer, not the 200s...to ANY mixer, so i can even the 100s to play mp3s?? true? not sure about this though...

wacko.gif The 100's wont play MP3's. The Pioneer bods were still in their "MP3 = Piracy" train of thought up until about a year ago - at least thats the impression I got when viewing their forum back then - consequently other CD-decks offer more MP3 features than Pioneer - who are a little behind the game now.

For example: How would you like to be able to slip a CD into a DJ CD-deck, and NOT have to refer to a paper list of tracks to find that "Castles in the sky" is track one hundred and seventy seven on the CD... and how would you like to be playing one MP3 track on the CD-deck, choose the next track by Track name, or artist name and seamlessly have the that track crossfade over a few seconds into the original track? The Pioneers wont do this, but newly designed machines will.

Both the MP3 library feature which allows you to search through the disc by artist name or song title even while the disc is playing, and also the Next Track feature are found on the Denon DN-S1000 CD-deck. Its suggested retail price is 379, but I've seen prices of 299 over the last few months.

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Posted 03 August 2006 - 01:01 PM

QUOTE (Gary @ Aug 3 2006, 11:52 AM)
[QUOTE=otobot,Aug 3 2006, 10:32 AM]Both the MP3 library feature which allows you to search through the disc by artist name or song title even while the disc is playing, and also the Next Track feature are found on the Denon DN-S1000 CD-deck. Its suggested retail price is 379, but I've seen prices of 299 over the last few months.

Or less at a certain German web site.
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Posted 03 August 2006 - 02:27 PM

man! thanks alot guys!! i might just get a cdj100 for the mean time then...since its mp3 playin capabilities arent that great...then save up and buy a nice mp3 capable one when im good enough...

..."Castles in the sky" is track one hundred and seventy seven on the CD... and how would you like to be playing one MP3 track on the CD-deck, choose the next track by Track name, or artist name and seamlessly have the that track crossfade over a few seconds into the original track? The Pioneers wont do this... - this scared me a bit...hahaha!

DJ Marky Marc - i didnt quite understood what you meant...

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Posted 03 August 2006 - 04:21 PM

in my opinion its more worth your time and money to save up and get the 200's... i was in a similar situation and ended up buying 3 (dont ask why) 100's and as soon as i had a go on the 200's i bought a pair....it doesnt only hve mp3 playback which is differnt...there is a better jog wheel..effects..loop points....none of which you found/ or were any good on the 100's







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Posted 03 August 2006 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (otobot @ Aug 3 2006, 03:27 PM)
i might just get a cdj100 for the mean time then...since its mp3 playin capabilities arent that great...then save up and buy a nice mp3 capable one when im good enough...

Hi Otobot

The Denon DN-S1000 is about the same price as the Pioneer CDJ100, and even ignoring its mp3 capability, it still has many features that the CDJ100 doesn't. (I'm beginning to sound like Gary! fear.gif )

In fact I'm thinking of upgrading my Pioneer CDJ500S's to Denon DN-S1000's, even though the Denons cost less than my Pioneers did.

Thinking about it again, you might be better off with a pair of second hand Pioneer CDJ500S's, and I know where you can get some well looked after ones. whistling.gif


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Posted 04 August 2006 - 03:02 AM

thanks for all your replies...after checkin out the Denon DN-S1000...(read that all denon's are mp3 compatible) im really considering on gettin those instead of the Pioneer's...but i still have a lot of time to think about it...

...second hand Pioneer CDJ500S's, and I know where you can get some well looked after ones - location: hong kong

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Posted 04 August 2006 - 06:46 AM

QUOTE (otobot @ Aug 4 2006, 04:02 AM)
...second hand Pioneer CDJ500S's, and I know where you can get some well looked after ones - location: hong kong

No, I may sell my pair if I get some Denon DN-S1000's.

They would get you going for a low outlay, but realistically you're better off with the Denons if you can afford them.
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Posted 04 August 2006 - 07:33 AM

well...im savin up for a pair of cdj200s and an average mixer...and since the price of the DN-S1000's is between the 100s n 200s...i might consider it when im gonna buy the set

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 01:58 AM

what you guys think of this one? any reviews?? im thinkin of gettin it while im savin up til i can get me some decent decks...

ION USB Mixing Kit
http://www.iwantoneo.../index.html#top

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 09:52 AM

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PAhhhhhh Fisher price bedroom DJ stuff tongue.gif

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 11:25 AM

QUOTE (DJ Marky Marc @ Aug 24 2006, 10:52 AM)
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PAhhhhhh Fisher price bedroom DJ stuff tongue.gif

No, they really are OK, and very useable Marc. However, I have serious doubts about the ION kit you refer to OBOT, that is really low quality budget stuff, better off finding a pair of better quality second hand dex

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