ross@rds 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hi all Thinking of changing my prices for weddings next year any suggestions. Charging £170 just now for wedding's not much i know but gonna change it for 2007 what price range would you say ?? Feedback would be good thanks Link to post Share on other sites
ollygeorge 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 How much are you worth? Ask yourself this and you should come to a answer! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Mobile Disco based in the Chew Valley & South Bristol Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo55 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 As a rough guide Total your annual running costs Music, Insurance, repairs and maintainence, Capital costs (new equipment) fuel and transport costs, professional subscriptions, etc. Total that lot and divide it by the number of gigs you expect to do in a year. Then add in what you would expect to earn for each hour. Don't forget the taxmans bit!! Jimbo Digital Fusion Entertainments Bose L1 system user. Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Marky Marc 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Also maybe add the cost of a real hosted web site and advertising etc and put your prices up to acomodate this.... get the mrs to call arround your area and ask for quotes from other discos... and then aim where you feel you should be priced and what you feel your worth.. you dont need to undercut people to get the work and being the cheepest is not the best way forward... stick to your guns on pricing and sell your self and the best solution and best Value for money... here in the south near to london you will be lucky to get a good disco for less than £250 and all the quality DJs can charge as much as £400 for a wedding... Dont be scared of the people saying your too much.... there are always people willing to pay the right price if you do a good job.... Good luck ! <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisPointon 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 How Much Should I charge for a Disco Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Smith 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 First of all I think that everyone should raise their prices annually by at least the inflation % figure. If you don't then you'll be working for less. Secondly if you want to increase your prices by more than this consider the following: Do you have more bookings coming in than you can physically handle Are you adding extra value to what you are currently doing to warrant the increase Have you made other investments in your business that necessitate a rise Will the market you are in allow the rise or will you end up with little no work If you have the demand and are getting lots of referrals then you are worth the extra. If not you could try this: Increase your prices by £10 - £15 now and once you have 10 bookings at the new price increase it again by the same amount for the next 10 and so on. With this method there's no sudden shocks and if the demand is there you will have increased your prices in line with that demand. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/smile.gif Link to post Share on other sites
ian . 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Don't put your prices up - that's my advice to you. It's hard enough for a 16 year old to get disco work as it is, and if you put your prices up, people may think 'well, I can get that 35 year old DJ the other side of town who's got years of experience for the same money'. Caution - be careful. £170 ain't too bad for a wedding anyway - I wish I was getting that sort of money at your age! When I was a lad.... blah blah blah..... Took the sharra to Blackpool for the weekend and still 'ad change from two bob. My god... I sound like mikee... shoot me please.... ! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/fear.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
ross@rds 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Lol thanks everyone i will have a think about it anyway http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites
jamminroadshow 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 I would say check your area as some times you might be far to cheap and run the risk of being labeled as this and the only jobs that you get are the rougher ones (i personally have found working class people a lot better at partys) http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/smile.gif <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
tonyj 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Ross whats the difference between a mobile disco for £120 and a wedding for £170? (asking from a punters point of view) just a thought, and a possible problem of having prices on your site Member of The Musicians Union "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like hard work." Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_Mitchell 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 No disrespect to you Ross and don`t think am patronising for 1 second . But I personally think Iany has hit the nail on the head.. Have a good think about it first. £170 is good money for a 16 yr old. Do you do many gigs? Is your equipment upto charging more of a fee? Have a good think about it. I personally think your better off doing as many gigs as you can to gain more experiance. Even though am 34 and been gigging since I was 16 am still learning all the time.. The main thing you DONT want to do is out price yourself. Good luck. Steve 5 European cups and 18 leagues, that`s what we call history. Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisPointon 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 At 16 I was earning £35 on a YTS Scheme for 38 hours. Whilst most of the others of the same age were still working a paper round for pocket money! Kids today *Tut* http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Ian makes a good point, £170 is a lot more than some older DJ's I know are earning, certainly it falls as an average, at least in our Recent Poll and also the two before that one http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/smile.gif . But, if you think your skills are worth more than that, then you certainly shouldn't be persuaded against raising your prices, just don't do it to the point where you price yourself out of the local market!. I also agree with Tony, I've never figured out why some people charge £50+ more for Weddings compared to other functions. Surely your per hour rate should be universal, as I can't see that your overheads (expenses) differ that much between a Dinner Dance for a local golf club and a Wedding Reception or a Birthday http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/533.gif . Put this way, would you not feel peeved if you called a Plumber and he charged you more than your next door neighbour just because your house was worth more, and you just happened to have a Merc parked in the driveway?. Personally, I think the only time that fees should change from function to function are perhaps where the distance involves more travelling time and fuel, an awkward venue which may require more setting up time, or that you are asked to provide a larger roadshow or some other requirement which you wouldn't normally supply as standard (ie hire gear, PA Hire etc, Special Effects etc) or where you are asked to play additional hours before / after the agreed timescale. Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Smith 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 QUOTE (Chris_Pointon @ Oct 19 2006, 10:34 PM) I also agree with Tony, I've never figured out why some people charge £50+ more for Weddings compared to other functions. I used to think this as well however I spend a lot more time planning a wedding compared to a birthday. This would include a meeting with the Bride & Groom a few days before the event to go over all the details. I'm also adding other things that will take up more of my time to prepare and so I now charge more for a wedding than any other event. It's not as if I have adopted this policy just because people are prepared to pay more for a wedding DJ, I want to make their day (evening) as special and memorable as I can & to do that takes more time & effort in advance = additional charge. Link to post Share on other sites
ian . 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 I'm with Smithy on this one. Weddings are far more effort, but as long as the bride and groom to be can see this, they usually don't mind paying a little extra. It's the little extras that make the difference. They like to feel like they're being fussed over as well. <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_Mitchell 0 Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Smith & Young. Agreed. Steve 5 European cups and 18 leagues, that`s what we call history. Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Smith 0 Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 QUOTE (Steve Mitchell) Smith & Young Sounds like a double act - Alas http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/wacko.gif or I could just use it myself - 'Young Smith' http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/nono.gif quiet at the back http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/bigstar.gif Link to post Share on other sites
tonyj 0 Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 QUOTE (Paul_Smith @ Oct 21 2006, 03:24 AM) QUOTE (Steve Mitchell) Smith & Young Sounds like a double act - Alas http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/wacko.gif or I could just use it myself - 'Young Smith' http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/nono.gif quiet at the back http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/bigstar.gif that is age discrimination and is therefore now illegal..lol previously i asked the difference between a wedding and mobile disco.. and yes when more time/sevice is included then the increased rate is justified, no arguements from me... its just on Ross's site the difference is not explained. Member of The Musicians Union "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like hard work." Link to post Share on other sites
ross@rds 0 Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Diffrence between what ?? My prices the clilent is told on the phone or when in a meeting with them why the price's differ. Weddings are alot harder am more work is needed to orginise. (spelt wrong i know) lol Link to post Share on other sites
PEDJ 0 Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 I never took advice as a young woman but i wish i had! Sorry rds but if you discuss the prices on the phone as you state anyway then I would either remove all the prices from your website or keep it very simple as your prices on first glance look a mess! You need to explain your price differences a little more indepth than what you have currently on your website. Link to post Share on other sites
ian . 0 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I would never have prices on a website. I suppose a minimum or starting price may be ok, but definately not for something like a wedding. The wedding I've just got back from required me to be there at 3pm, background music from 4pm, radio mics for the speeches etc, and a disco starting proper at around 7.30. Finish time for the disco was 12.05 (I always run over! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif ), the just under an hour to break down and pack the equipment. Would you quote your basic price for that? Don't think so. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/nono.gif Price each one as it comes in. Theres no such thing as a standard wedding. Young & Smith Inc. Ltd. Est. 1904. <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Westcott 0 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Good advice, and this has been discussed on another thread here recently. The big issue here is that by advertising prices, you will probably turn away a lot of custom at the web page stage. There are a lot of people who still choose a disco on price alone, and I can't see that changing. By omitting the price, you force the potential client to phone you, and it's during the face-to-face meeting that you can sell yourself and your price to them. If they are still intent on going for the cheapest option, there's nort you can really do, other than maybe retreat and drop your price, but beware! For here be dragons...... Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Smith 0 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 QUOTE Young & Smith Inc. Ltd. Est. 1904 According to my copy of the Incorporation it's Smith & Young Inc Ltd which we thrashed out during that meeting when Lennon & McCartney didn't show up. Come to think of it I don't think you turned up either which made the decision so much easier http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/smile.gif A few years ago I had my prices on my site and during a similar thread on here at that time I made a good argument for them being there. Others gave even better reasons for taking them off and that's what I did - it's far easier to explain to someone why you charge what you charge either on the phone or face to face than can be accomplished in text - unless of course price is your USP and you want to be seen as the cheapest or dearest in your area. Having said that and, at the risk of defeating my own argument, I get a lot of enquiries asking for a price where the only method of contact given is an email address. In this case then I do provide a text price but it's based on all the information they have provided. Link to post Share on other sites
ian . 0 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Mr. Smith. You win. Age before beauty. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/laugh.gif <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Smith 0 Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 QUOTE (iany @ Oct 22 2006, 09:22 PM) Mr. Smith. You win. Age before beauty. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/laugh.gif Brains before brawn http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/whistling.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/kid.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/sterb188.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites
ian . 0 Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Ladies before Gentlemen. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/laugh.gif <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
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