UKHero 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Get used to it, Infact think yourself lucky! It wont be long before the bookings decline, Why pay for a DJ to use his fancy lights and speakers and play music all night if half the time people will be outside, This includes residencies where people are staying outside more in our cushty new areas, Why would any landlord or manager pay a DJ to play to an empty pub? But like others have said ....... Thats Life..... but when THAT happens im sure the biased people here will soon have a grumble. Oh i cant wait! Interesting points mattaious but can I ask who you think the Biased people are. Nik Niks Roadshow Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Smith 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Interesting points mattaious but can I ask who you think the Biased people are. Nik Good debate but let's not make it personal smile icon Link to post Share on other sites
Corabar Steve 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 It was nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be, but it was still less than half full. Steve... Mad bad & dangerous to know Better to study for one hour with the wise, than to drink wine with the foolish. The opinions of Corabar Steve are not necessarily those of Corabar Ltd or any of it's subsidiary companies <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
rictic 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 i will be sneaking a crafty smoke in when i can. no more hiding behind a curtain or summat. stick a megamix on and go get a puff round the back. <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
UKHero 0 Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Good debate but let's not make it personal smile icon Hi Paul Sorry was not personal just wondered weather it was the smokers or non smokers who were concidered biased... Nik Niks Roadshow Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Westcott 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I've not noticed any overall decline, and am very happy with the situation; The biggest plus for me is I can now breathe properly without worrying what I was breathing in, and the gear no longer stinks. As for people going outside to smoke, all I've noticed is very small groups disappearing for a song or two, then coming back in, having had very little impact on the numbers dancing. I appreciate how smokers may feel their civil liberties have been affected, but how about non-smokers? Why should we be made to breathe in all that pollution? Isn't that an infringement of our civil liberties? I don't wish to smoke, and certainly don't want to breathe other peoples'. I don't give a damn what other people do, as long as it doesn't harm me. Hopefully, the numbers of smokers will decline over the years and this legislation will be looked upon as a good move. smile icon Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk DJ 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I've not noticed any overall decline, and am very happy with the situation; The biggest plus for me is I can now breathe properly without worrying what I was breathing in, and the gear no longer stinks. As for people going outside to smoke, all I've noticed is very small groups disappearing for a song or two, then coming back in, having had very little impact on the numbers dancing. I appreciate how smokers may feel their civil liberties have been affected, but how about non-smokers? Why should we be made to breathe in all that pollution? Isn't that an infringement of our civil liberties? I don't wish to smoke, and certainly don't want to breathe other peoples'. I don't give a damn what other people do, as long as it doesn't harm me. Hopefully, the numbers of smokers will decline over the years and this legislation will be looked upon as a good move. smile icon 100% agree Andy. I've done about 4 weddings since the ban came in and all have been good nights. In fact I would suggest that people have stayed longer rather than being 'smoked out' by 11.00pm. People also tend to be in a good mood and that rubs off on the whole function. Like Andy says, people disapear for about 2 tracks and they are back. Great. I also reckon m Link to post Share on other sites
Dream Catchers 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 i will be sneaking a crafty smoke in when i can. no more hiding behind a curtain or summat. stick a megamix on and go get a puff round the back. What has having an intimate homosexual relationship got to do with smoking :love: LOL As far as smoking is concerned clubs have never let people smoke or drink on the dance floor and nobody complained about that. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
Corabar Steve 0 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I've not noticed any overall decline, and am very happy with the situation; The biggest plus for me is I can now breathe properly without worrying what I was breathing in, and the gear no longer stinks.How many of you share a bed with your kit???????? It doesn't matter what it smells like you don't live with it! I appreciate how smokers may feel their civil liberties have been affected, but how about non-smokers? Why should we be made to breathe in all that pollution? Isn't that an infringement of our civil liberties? I don't wish to smoke, and certainly don't want to breathe other peoples'. I don't give a damn what other people do, as long as it doesn't harm me. Nobody forced non smokers to go somewhere there was smoke, smokers are now being forced to go somewhere to smoke. Hardly the same thing is it? Steve... Mad bad & dangerous to know Better to study for one hour with the wise, than to drink wine with the foolish. The opinions of Corabar Steve are not necessarily those of Corabar Ltd or any of it's subsidiary companies <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
exbutlinred82 0 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 For the first time in five years I'm thinking about jacking. My show(?) relies on audience participation.Clapping...singingalong... dancing to all the cheesey stuff.Doesn't work when 70% of my audience are outside killing themselves. Jarred off with a capital P. Link to post Share on other sites
Corabar Steve 0 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Doesn't work when 70% of my audience are outside killing themselves. Jarred off with a capital P. I'm in agreement, see post #53 Steve... Mad bad & dangerous to know Better to study for one hour with the wise, than to drink wine with the foolish. The opinions of Corabar Steve are not necessarily those of Corabar Ltd or any of it's subsidiary companies <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk DJ 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 For the first time in five years I'm thinking about jacking. My show(?) relies on audience participation.Clapping...singingalong... dancing to all the cheesey stuff.Doesn't work when 70% of my audience are outside killing themselves. Jarred off with a capital P. Obviously I must live in a 'low' smoking area, as I have noticed little difference. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattaious 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Clickey I hope this guy gets somewhere, If you want to read more then Click ME! :rant: Link to post Share on other sites
Dream Catchers 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 I hope he does get somewhere too, preferably Strangeways. Look at the picture of his punters, they are all puffing away at fags just for the sake of getting their pictures in the media. If you want to liken smoking to driving cars then you can see that there are places where different speed limits apply and where driving isn't allowed at all. 20mph speeds near schools, 70mph on motorways and no driving allowed in pedestrianised town centres. I haven't noticed any change in the numbers of people on the dance floor (still nobody dancing to my tunes LOL only kidding) Jim Link to post Share on other sites
jeffwall 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 my friday res job....(local pub disco on a friday night) worse than ever now.....around 30 percent always outside....door forever swinging open /closed....they are in and out all night, hard to get an atmosphere going really sure other pubs will be similar Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk DJ 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Clickey I hope this guy gets somewhere, If you want to read more then Click ME! :rant: behind bars where he will be made an example Link to post Share on other sites
Corabar Steve 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 my friday res job....(local pub disco on a friday night) worse than ever now.....around 30 percent always outside....door forever swinging open /closed....they are in and out all night, hard to get an atmosphere going really sure other pubs will be similar Yep! Steve... Mad bad & dangerous to know Better to study for one hour with the wise, than to drink wine with the foolish. The opinions of Corabar Steve are not necessarily those of Corabar Ltd or any of it's subsidiary companies <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
UKHero 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 my friday res job....(local pub disco on a friday night) worse than ever now.....around 30 percent always outside....door forever swinging open /closed....they are in and out all night, hard to get an atmosphere going really sure other pubs will be similar Nope!!! Clickey I hope this guy gets somewhere, If you want to read more then Click ME! :rant: Stupid man.... Nik Niks Roadshow Link to post Share on other sites
Corabar Steve 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Stupid man.... What? For standing up for what he believes in? Good on him, shame there aren't more like him. Steve... Mad bad & dangerous to know Better to study for one hour with the wise, than to drink wine with the foolish. The opinions of Corabar Steve are not necessarily those of Corabar Ltd or any of it's subsidiary companies <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Mattaious 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 What? For standing up for what he believes in? Good on him, shame there aren't more like him. I agree! But then again, the smoking ban only effects the smokers, Its us being dictated to! i wonder if the tables were turned? who'd moan then!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
old soul 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 I still don't understand why pubs can't be given the option of smoking or non smoking, and I've no trouble with non smoking in restaraunt or longe bar areas. As DJ's we need to be carefull here of what we are saying. This is a dig at anyone,but I do think some members are stepping over the line here on encouraging people or supporting people to break the law. I can't see that this is in the spirit of the forum at all. People who are not members have access to this site, and I think we have a professional duty of here to keep some opinions under wraps. I fully accept any law of the UK, whether I agree with it or not. There must surely be a difference between breaking a law, and expressing an opinion of one? What happens when the ID card comes in, complete with your weekly alcohol credits on it? Or you're told what you can or can't eat for your evening meal each day. I accept that smoking is unpleasant to non smokers, but there are far bigger risks to health around, so just pray that this isn't the thin end of the wedge! Neil B Link to post Share on other sites
exbutlinred82 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 I'm glad Corabar and Jeff Wall are with me. You are only a good (or as bad) as your last function or evening. Landlords (bless em) have had there backs aginst the wall for years now.No time for loss leaders now.Count the amount of PROFIT going over the bar.Are they really covering your fee.If not look out. I'm in an ex-mining communityy and the majority are heavy smokers.Not like the IT guys from South of Watford. HHHEEEELLLLPPPPP.I'm sinking. Link to post Share on other sites
C.S 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Of the seven clubs/bars that were in this town when the smoking ban came in 3 years ago only 2 are still open ! I will try anything,once! The Cornish will arise again ! Manager of the Andy Harris Fan Club. Keep pasties Cornish Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Westcott 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Just to deal with Steve's comments: "It doesn't matter what (your gear) smells like you don't live with it!" Ummm... yes I do, actually. Bits af it are regularly in the lounge, and I know there are many other DJs who keep their equipment in the house. Nice to no longer have the house smelling like a pub next morning! And this: "Nobody forced non smokers to go somewhere there was smoke, smokers are now being forced to go somewhere to smoke. Hardly the same thing is it?" The issue here is that when people don't smoke, it affects no-one. However, when someone chooses to smoke in a confined place, others are affected, and possibly with eventual fatal conequences. As the smokers could be perceived as the aggressors here, I feel it is right that they should be the ones to move, not the non-smokers. Fair comment? (That'll stir 'em up!!) Anyhow, It is beginning to appear that it is mainly the pub gigs which are suffering due to the smoking ban, but fortunately I don't do these, so that probably goes some way towards explaining why I haven't noticed any real difference. Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk DJ 0 Posted July 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 (edited) What? For standing up for what he believes in? Good on him, shame there aren't more like him. As DJ's we need to be carefull here of what we are saying. This is a dig at anyone,but I do think some members are stepping over the line here on encouraging people or supporting people to break the law. I can't see that this is in the spirit of the forum at all. People who are not members have access to this site, and I think we have a professional duty of here to keep some opinions under wraps. I fully accept any law of the UK, whether I agree with it or not. Edited July 31, 2007 by Norfolk DJ Link to post Share on other sites
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