williamrobb88 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Hi guys I am looking to set up (DJ/Karaoke) again, after a break of about 6 years. Since then, technology has changed so much, that I feel like a novice. Basically, I am after a set of speakers to build into a new Kit. I have seen a speaker called a Mackie SRM 450 in use, and it is fantastic. Luckilly, my mate has a great set up, and I've filled in for him a few times. The conclusion I have arrived at is: Mackie SRM350, are an excellent speaker, but were just not powerfull enough to service the kind of room/hall we sometimes worked. Mackie SRM450, are just the job! So I hear you say, why are you posting this on here if you know what you want? Well, the answer is cost! I simply can't afford a new pair of SRM450 (Best price I've found is £750), and because these are so good, there are very few available at 2nd hand. My mate who's a DJ has told me that the following are all very good makes, but I'm confused now: JBL, Beringher, Peavey. So, to get back to my question............ Can anybody suggest a cheaper alternative to these SRM450, with similar sound quality and power output? Thanks all. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattaious 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 (edited) First of all :welcome: to the Forum! The 450's are excellent i agree, There is a fellow DJU member with some 450's for sale This link to the post http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=18013 Another link here - another DJU member - http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=17769 Hope this helps Edited October 8, 2007 by mattaious Link to post Share on other sites
williamrobb88 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Thanks, but both these links are broken or out of date. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Smith 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Thanks, but both these links are broken or out of date. Cheers I've just checked them and they both work fine. If you go into Equip Wants & Sales one of the topics is from yesterday and the other from Sep 7th so it should be easy to find them. Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk DJ 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 The SRM 450's are a great speaker for the money. The cost is reasonable when you think that they will pay for themselves in 3-4 gigs. They also hold their price well second-hand. Difficult to fault them for the price and performance. Link to post Share on other sites
Swingcats 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 (edited) The SRM 450's are a great speaker for the money. The cost is reasonable when you think that they will pay for themselves in 3-4 gigs. They also hold their price well second-hand. Difficult to fault them for the price and performance. I was in your position a few months back, Shall I buy Mackie or Cheaper? I went for Machie 450's NO REGRETS, no I could not afford them but the pay back is in a great image, good sound, referals from happy clients. Go for the Mackies Edited October 8, 2007 by Swingcats Good Rockin Daddy (Chris) www.swingcats.co.uk Music to dance to from 1930's to NOW! Shake your rude box. Yeovil Somerset 0845 094 3757 Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_Mitchell 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I use them too. Believe it or not but a pair of POWERED (no amps required) cabs for £750 is not expensive..Don`t use a cheaper alternative. Steve 5 European cups and 18 leagues, that`s what we call history. Link to post Share on other sites
mick 0 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I bought a pair of Alto PS4HA's a couple of years ago and I am very pleased with their performance and they have never given any bother. More or less identical to the Makies except the price. However Makies have come down in price since then but I still would not swop you for the Makies as the Alto's work fine for me. Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_Mitchell 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I bought a pair of Alto PS4HA's a couple of years ago and I am very pleased with their performance and they have never given any bother. More or less identical to the Makies except the price. However Makies have come down in price since then but I still would not swop you for the Makies as the Alto's work fine for me. :Thumbup: ....There`s your alterative. Steve 5 European cups and 18 leagues, that`s what we call history. Link to post Share on other sites
spinner 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Or you could check out the W-Audio PSR series. They've had some good reports. Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Marky Marc 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I use an Alto PS4 as a monitor speaker and its great value for money .. yes if you spend ages compairing the SRM450s with the alto you will find the makies are the better unit.. but the Alto runs a very very close second place .... PM me if you want a price... <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Spinko 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I agree with Mick, the Alto PS4HA's are an excellent alternative to the Mackies. I was lucky enough to be in my local dj retailers when they got a pair in to use for hire, less than 6 months later they were up for sale, picked them up for £300. They are a superb unit, having used the Mackies they also provide a great sound but are a little bit more expensive, both thoroughly reccommended, it's now down to your pocket. One other tip, get protective covers for them. Spinko Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk DJ 0 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 One other tip, get protective covers for them. Spinko That's the price advice on this thread. It's false economy to spend £750 on a set of mackies and then let them get scratched. I bought the excellent covers from thomans last year, and they are well worth the extra expense. Link to post Share on other sites
NRG Roadshow 0 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 As Im shortly gonna be joining Club Mackie 450...... I want to get some decent bags for them. The Thorman ones you mentioned, are the the exact size for the 450? Do you have a link to the ones you bought? Link to post Share on other sites
Mattaious 0 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 (edited) As Im shortly gonna be joining Club Mackie 450...... I want to get some decent bags for them. The Thorman ones you mentioned, are the the exact size for the 450? Do you have a link to the ones you bought? http://www.thomann.de/gb/mackie_srmbag_schutzhuelle.htm There you go tongue out icon Only one listed for the Mackies Edited October 24, 2007 by mattaious Link to post Share on other sites
JordanHall 0 Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Or you could check out the W-Audio PSR series. They've had some good reports. i have the warrior psr 15's . . . What a sound .. Had a demo of the mackie 450's , Decided the warriors were actually better in my view .. Very Punch Bass .. May purchase some mackie 15 or 18'' Bins though ! hmmmm... Anyone got any Mackie Bins ? Jordan Hall D & J Disco's 0113 2552676 07765 194149 www.dandjdiscos.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites
EdBray 0 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 As Im shortly gonna be joining Club Mackie 450...... I want to get some decent bags for them. The Thorman ones you mentioned, are the the exact size for the 450? Do you have a link to the ones you bought? Nick, I used Thomanns PA302A bags for my Mackies. Good Fit, really well made padded bags with holes in the right places for the side handles and almost half the price of the thinner Mackie bags. Here Eddie <a href="http://www.vibrant-sounds.co.uk" title="Vibrant Sounds Mobile Disco & Karaoke DJ Ed Bray Eddie Bray eddiebray plymouth devon weddings birthdays parties mobilediscoplymouth" "mobile disco plymouth">www.vibrant-sounds.co.uk</a> <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>PAFC Pride of DEVON</span> C'mon U Greens Link to post Share on other sites
Partyprint 0 Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Can I just reccomend you save up a bit more and go for the speakers you want, otherwise your not going to be completly satisfied with the ones you buy and will end up buying the mackies some time down the line. Wedding Dj in Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites
TonyB 0 Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 i have the warrior psr 15's . . . What a sound .. Had a demo of the mackie 450's , Decided the warriors were actually better in my view .. Very Punch Bass .. May purchase some mackie 15 or 18'' Bins though ! hmmmm... Anyone got any Mackie Bins ? I have heard Mackie 450's and the Warrior PSR 15's side by side and personally would go for the Warriors too. Clearer better defined sound, not so harsh at high volumes and better bottom end bass. Link to post Share on other sites
Revelationroadshow 0 Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I have heard Mackie 450's and the Warrior PSR 15's side by side and personally would go for the Warriors too. Clearer better defined sound, not so harsh at high volumes and better bottom end bass. Have to say I'm supprised. I've always considered Warriers to be a more budget range than Mackie. Have only heard Mackies in live situations - bands, singers atc... and have always been very impressed. To the extent that I am considering upgrading my M-Flex to Mackies <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
TonyB 0 Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Have to say I'm supprised. I've always considered Warriers to be a more budget range than Mackie. Have only heard Mackies in live situations - bands, singers atc... and have always been very impressed. To the extent that I am considering upgrading my M-Flex to Mackies The mackie design is getting on a bit now - they were designed 8/9 years ago. originally the speaker components were made by RCF in Italy and the electrical bits made in the US. When they became popular and everyone raved about how good they are, they moved the manufacture to the fast east, can't remember if it was China or Japan at the moment and sound quality deteriorated a bit but they still continue to trade well on the strength of their original reputation. They seem to have become a must have designer name but I've never been one to be taken in by designer gear. Tesco jeans at a fiver a pair have always suited me as they look just the same and last just as long as an expensive designer pair. smile icon Other companies have now developed new speakers which surpass the quality of the 8/9 year old Mackie design including, in my opinion Warrior who produce an excellent speaker for the price. Given the choice though I would go for RCF. The RCF310A is a good contender which is only 10", 350w compared to Mackies 400w but produces the same output and a cleaner sound because of more efficient speakers. Link to post Share on other sites
djweeble 0 Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Given the choice though I would go for RCF. The RCF310A is a good contender which is only 10", 350w compared to Mackies 400w but produces the same output and a cleaner sound because of more efficient speakers. Yeah, but you can't fry eggs on the RCF's :ads: Leading the way in leaving the UK Last man out turn off the lights ! Link to post Share on other sites
jeffwall 0 Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 I think its important to remember that a 15inch speaker will give you a better bass response compared to the 12inch mackie driver...... So listening to them in a shop, they will sound better maybe But over all, the 12inch high SPL mackie would win hands down IMO, coupled with a bass bin, they are really excellent speakers for a relatively low outlay of 800 quid or so adecent set of hifi speakers cost this much, its nothing to pay for the main part of your rig, and most important part of rig too Link to post Share on other sites
Bolan-Boogie 0 Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) No ones mentioned the DB Opera's as an alternative, these have some VERY credible reviews. These are also SIMPLY AWESOME for the money ! http://www.studiospares.com/product.aspx?code=248260 Edited February 18, 2008 by Bolan-Boogie Link to post Share on other sites
JCarey 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Mackie are about to/have launch/ed a new version of the SRM450. They are calling them, are you ready for this, SRM 450 V2. In the states the new units are really expensive but I suspect that dealers with the older models will offer good deals to clear remaining stock. In my money, €1000 will buy a pair of the originals from any of the German based web-dealers, delivered to Ireland, this is about €500 cheaper than 6 months ago. The original post mentioned that he liked the 350 but it lacked power. If you think a 10 inch will give you enough bass, you might check out the RCF ART 310A (300W bass + 50W top), 12.4KG. Like the Mackie more expensive than other speakers but the quality/clarity, if the other elements of your system are right, are superb. Watch for deals on the Mackies if your really interested, John DJ John Carey Link to post Share on other sites
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