Settings for Sliders and Volume

[llcooljoe 0]

As some of you will know I'm very new to this djing business. I love music, but I'm a complete dunce when it comes to the technical side of things.

 

I have the Numark CDN 22Mk3 Twin CD Player and Numark DM1090 Mixer and there are slide volume controls. There is the master one and then 2 others for each channel. Should the master one be set differently to the other 2 if that makes sense? I can see the difference between using the 2 channels but when do you use the master one and is there a position that it should be set at to balance the other 2?

 

Does any of what I've asked make sense?? :stu:

[Jimbo55 0]

Try This Thread

 

Gain Settings

[DJ Marky Marc 0]

Do you mix with the crossfader or the main stereo faders ??

 

its best to avoid using the crossfader and learn to use the main stereo faders..

 

ok the master out is just that, the over all level control...

 

you need to aim to get the input level (gain/trim adjusts this) to about 0db on average..

 

then use the length of the channel faders to mix with ..

 

the main out put master fader should be used rarely... this is the volume level your put out to the dance floor.. adjust this to sute the level of music required.. then go back to the channels to DJ with..

 

adjusting the gain / trim will keep things about the same volume for different tracks..

 

 

[Dream Catchers 0]

As some of you will know I'm very new to this djing business. I love music, but I'm a complete dunce when it comes to the technical side of things.

 

I have the Numark CDN 22Mk3 Twin CD Player and Numark DM1090 Mixer and there are slide volume controls. There is the master one and then 2 others for each channel. Should the master one be set differently to the other 2 if that makes sense? I can see the difference between using the 2 channels but when do you use the master one and is there a position that it should be set at to balance the other 2?

 

Does any of what I've asked make sense?? :stu:

I set the 'gain' for each of the CD channels so that the VU meters peak at 0db with the slider also at 0db (about 80% up).

Then set the master volume at about 50% and the amp gain at a level which is no too loud (normally about 40-50%)

I then set mic channels so they are the same.

As the night goes on and the room fills, I increase the master volume to suite, that way all the sliders and balances stay propotional.

When you increase the master volume dont let the VU meters bounce about in the red, keep it to 0db.

You also can increase the amp gain if you run out of volume on the mixer.

Does that make sense?

 

Jim

[brianmole 0]

As some of you will know I'm very new to this djing business. I love music, but I'm a complete dunce when it comes to the technical side of things.

 

I have the Numark CDN 22Mk3 Twin CD Player and Numark DM1090 Mixer and there are slide volume controls. There is the master one and then 2 others for each channel. Should the master one be set differently to the other 2 if that makes sense? I can see the difference between using the 2 channels but when do you use the master one and is there a position that it should be set at to balance the other 2?

 

Does any of what I've asked make sense?? :stu:

Here you go llcooljoe, this should help.

[llcooljoe 0]

Wow thanks for all your feedback and advice! I think I have a long way to go yet before I can call myself a dj!

 

 

Marc I actually mix with the crossfader. I never realised I shouldn't, it just seemed easier for me in the first few discos I've done. Is that really bad then? What is the crossfader for then?

 

Thanks for the links too. I need to do my homework.

[brianmole 0]

Wow thanks for all your feedback and advice! I think I have a long way to go yet before I can call myself a dj!

Marc I actually mix with the crossfader. I never realised I shouldn't, it just seemed easier for me in the first few discos I've done. Is that really bad then? What is the crossfader for then?

 

Thanks for the links too. I need to do my homework.

 

Crossfader is useful for some forms of mixing, and a pain in the butt for others.

You are in Surrey right? Why not go along to a few of our gigs with us? Marc and myself often work in Surrey, we could show you what we do and how we do it.

[NRG Roadshow 0]

LLcooljoe......If I was you I would take Brian up on his offer...

 

Then once you have watched the basics.....go home, set your kit up at home and practice practice practice.....and if thats not enough....practice some more!

 

Dont worry about the crossfader, if I understand correctly its main purpose is for scratch djs, which is a whole different artform all together! Theirs nothing wrong with using the crossfader to fade from one track to the next, its just better to do it on the main faders.

My mixer does not even have a crossfader, I deliberately bought one without so I wouldnt be tempted to use it.

 

I dont proclaim to be the worlds best mixing DJ and I would like to learn how to do it properly, but I aint had the oportinity yet.

 

Brian, I was at yours and Marcs mixing seminar at BPM, picked up a number of bits and bobs that I wasnt aware of before so I learnt a bit......some of it went way over my head though, like the bit about counting beats to work out the BPM.....but then Im a bit slow on the uptake somtimes LOL

Edited November 22, 2007 by NRG Roadshow

[llcooljoe 0]

Hey thanks both of you for filling me in on this! I feel a bit nervous now as I have a disco tomorrow night and another on saturday night and I think I'll have to stick with the crossfader for those because otherwise I think I may never get another booking!! The stupid thing is I thought I was doing an alright job and the change over from tracks sounded ok. I have to admit to having to know in advance which tracks are louder than others so it sounded ok. I will practice now, well I am all the time, but I'll do my best to get my head around it! When I have Brian, I'll take you up on your kind offer. I'd like to get to the stage where I have some idea what you are doing before I check you out!

Edited November 23, 2007 by llcooljoe

[NRG Roadshow 0]

I'll have to stick with the crossfader for those because otherwise I think I may never get another booking!! The stupid thing is I thought I was doing an alright job and the change over from tracks sounded ok. I have to admit to having to know in advance which tracks are louder than others so it sounded ok.

 

As far as I know, you wont be doing a bad job with the crossfader.....you can use it to go from one track to another and it should sound ok.

Dont panic, for now just do it how your used too until you have had a chance to learn and practice the other way or you might get yourself into a bit of a mess.

 

The main advantage with using the proper sliders is so you can compensate for the track volumes with slight adjustments in the slider when mixing.

 

Or at least I think thats how it is meant to work.

[yourweddingdisco 0]

Brian & Marky Marcs presentation @ BPM this year Joe (which hes posted above in a pdf link) is actually a very informative read for Djs who want to know the basics.

 

It sounds to me as if your happily using the crossfader to fade in between tracks. Ive got nothing against that, but Brians presentation above will help you understand the basics of how to link tracks and keep the dancefloor moving.

[STAR-Events 0]

there's nowt wrong with using the crossfader!

 

I generally use a bit of both when getting 'into it', but for track to track non beat matching (even beat matching) the cross fader does no damage!

 

I was taught that as long as it sounds good and you know the basics do what your happy with, a true DJAHHY (kevin and perry style) would see it as an art form of self expression! :bouncy:

 

So if it sounds good and works do it your way!

 

Using the channel faders does give you more level controll over a mix, and allows you to bounce in and out more gradually.