C S And Cornish Pasties

[rictic 0]

ok cs i keep seeing your siggy saying keep pasties cornish.

now bro what is the correct way to spell pastie / pasty.

and can you tell us the history of the real cornish pasty/ ie

 

[analyst 0]

I believe . . . that the traditional cornish pasty was originally devised as a complete meal in one for the farmer to take with him when out working in the fields.

 

It was a vegetable only filling, but not overcooked so they had a bit of "bite" to them, not like these slushy mushy commercial products on the shelves of Asda and co. It was larger, about ½lb, and also traditionally the half-round shape with a side crimp, not the dinosaur shaped top crimp.

 

Being sealed in pastry meant low internal air flow so it had quite a preservation action in that dry pastry does not readily support growth of mould spores and prevented them from penetrating through to the moister contents, which would obviously. This was, of course, before refrigeration.

 

Keeping Cornish Pasties Cornish is a bit of a quirk since the major producer is Ginsters who were acquired by the Samworth Bros, ex Nottingham based Northern Foods.

 

Now, CS will come along and correct me, I guess

[DJ Ben 0]

Some of the original ones had 2 parts, one side filled with the meat and vegetables and the other side filled with Jam.

 

They were used by miners who were down the pits for long periods of time

 

 

[Big B 0]

ok cs i keep seeing your siggy saying keep pasties cornish.

now bro what is the correct way to spell pastie / pasty.

and can you tell us the history of the real cornish pasty/ ie

 

 

My wife is from cornwall and i asked her mother the origin of the pasty, the miners use to get given them and the mums or wifes use to put a WHOLE meal in them, and in some parts of cornwall they also use to put a dessert in them as well as the meal.

 

and the crust was designed for the miners who had dirty hands so they could hold the crust eat the pasty and throw away the crust.

 

 

[EdBray 0]

My wife is from cornwall and i asked her mother the origin of the pasty, the miners use to get given them and the mums or wifes use to put a WHOLE meal in them, and in some parts of cornwall they also use to put a dessert in them as well as the meal.

 

and the crust was designed for the miners who had dirty hands so they could hold the crust eat the pasty and throw away the crust.

Bang On!

 

Arsenic is commonly found in Tin mines, so you needed to keep the hands of the miners away from their food. The crust around the outside was discarded.

The pastry was just an edible vessel, and many fillings were used depending on what was available. Fish, offcuts of meat (beef and mutton) and vegtables were most common. Dual filled pasties were not so common, but could have a filling of fruit or jam.

 

Spelling: Pasty (single) Pasties (plural)

 

From one who has eaten more than his fair share! (not this year though, on a strict diet and lost 30lbs in the last three weeks).

[C.S 0]

The bray knows his pasty ! Ginsters ????? thats what we feed to the emits, if it aint made in cornwall or at least by a cornish maid then i wont eat it. I only ever eat pasties when i am home in cornwall , would never ask the nog wife to make one here in norway, then again wouldnt ask anyone in cornwall to make whale stew or reindeer steak ! one pasty several pasties and they should be made to the exact size of the right foot of the recipiant !

Edited January 23, 2008 by C.S

[Andy Westcott 0]

Yes - they are of mining origin, apparently.

 

I'm related to the Borlase family who originated from Cornwall, and my father in law worked in both tin mines and mined wolframite so there's quite a mining connection. Perhaps that's why I've always had this obsession with mining and going underground generally. Or more likely I'm just wierd. Going bat counting with members of the Devon Wildlife Trust next week - that's down some old mines too...

 

Father-In-Law has a load of interesting and humourous stories from his time underground, like peeping out into the main tunnel to watch the dynamite detonate: "Had to keep yer teeth firmly together or the blast would break 'em."

 

Also the time they were instructed to break into the 'Old Men's Workings' - a 'House Of Water'. Frightened him so much that he lost his nerve, and couldn't go underground again - had to work on the surface from then on.

 

Also the time he and a mate knicked some dynamite and blew up a war memorial in Minions I think it was...

 

Not that this means I know b.all about pasties, but it's all good stuff. smile icon

[andyw 0]

 

From one who has eaten more than his fair share! (not this year though, on a strict diet and lost 30lbs in the last three weeks).

well done ed,next meet up is in kfc you will be alright they do diet coke with bargain buckets :ab

keep it up

[Andy Westcott 0]

Yes - 30lbs is a lot to lose. You will have to introduce yourself next time we meet!

 

I'm trying to lose a bit of mass too. First step was to cut out the chocomilk and the soup at work. 'Tiz free, and I tended to drink rather a lot of it, amounting to almost 1,000 calories a day. Having worked this out, I was jolted into doing something about it.

[digitaldistortion 0]

:hide: :chad:

 

 

Why has nobody mentioned (until now) that the Cornish Pasty (ie) comes from Devon?????

 

 

:hide: :chad:

[Swingcats 0]

Bang On!

 

Arsenic is commonly found in Tin mines, so you needed to keep the hands of the miners away from their food. The crust around the outside was discarded.

The pastry was just an edible vessel, and many fillings were used depending on what was available. Fish, offcuts of meat (beef and mutton) and vegtables were most common. Dual filled pasties were not so common, but could have a filling of fruit or jam.

 

Spelling: Pasty (single) Pasties (plural)

 

From one who has eaten more than his fair share! (not this year though, on a strict diet and lost 30lbs in the last three weeks).

 

Ah the romance of it all, I can see Damelza nagging on a Ginsters right now. I heard that Tin miners were so poor they could not afford meat.

 

http://www.swingcats.co.uk/images/demelzapastie.jpg

Edited January 25, 2008 by Swingcats

[Andy Westcott 0]

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"Why has nobody mentioned (until now) that the Cornish Pasty (ie) comes from Devon?????"

 

Because the ones made in Cornwall don't!! :dan+ju:

[C.S 0]

Rubbish ! err They are called " Cornish Pasties " next you will be saying that devon is the first/last county in britain ,that cream teas are from there and that the girls are prettier

[Andy Westcott 0]

It is.

They are.

They most certainly are.

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[NRG Roadshow 0]

Damn and blast this thread.....

 

Im starving hungry now, I have a craving for a Pasty!!!!

 

Im now gonna have to walk to the shop and see if they have a Ginsters in the fridge!

[Andy Westcott 0]

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"see if they have a Ginsters in the fridge!"

 

WHATT??!

Fingernail & elastoplast?

 

Each to his own I suppose...

[deejaymitch 0]

Cornish pasties, whether genuine or imitation, are rotten.

 

You only get REAL pasties in Norn Iron. Come over here and try a real pastie supper!

[Andy Westcott 0]

Yes - but do yours come with ground-in cassiterite??

[C.S 0]

It is.

They are.

They most certainly are.

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I see it says pillock on your signature ! I rest my case !!!!! :joe:

 

 

[Andy Westcott 0]

Can't argue with that. smile icon

[digitaldistortion 0]

Rubbish ! err They are called " Cornish Pasties " next you will be saying that devon is the first/last county in britain ,that cream teas are from there and that the girls are prettier

 

Yes....and all hoovers are called just that...but it's a generic term. Not all Cheddar comes from Cheddar (or even the surrounding area)!

 

By your own standard the 'cream tea' DOES come from Devon, because that's the term used generically!!!

 

Can't speak for the women...never been down there long enough to be bovvered!

 

Oh, and researching 'Cornish' pasties brings up even more confusion than you'd think (unless it's been written by the Cornish Tourist Board or similar). It has been suggested that the Vikings brought the pasty over with them.....Tell you what, considering that thats where they ended up after being chased further and further south, that's entirely possible. There are even other references to the Finns and Swedes....so that really helps 'big time' ....NOT!

 

Also..... See this link!

 

The Beeb

Edited January 27, 2008 by digitaldistortion