D.X 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 What is it about Martin lights that make them so much more expensive than the rest ??? Link to post Share on other sites
DJGAVT 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Build quality I would say is one big factor with Martin Lighting. My Martin stuff is still going long after other gear I own breaks down. Plus I think Martin stuff looks so much nicer than gear made for example by ACME, Kam or Prolight. Also think the optics on most martin stuff is much nicer. But now people will disagree tongue out icon but everyone can have there own view :Thumbup: Link to post Share on other sites
spinner 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 R&D probably has something to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites
Bolan-Boogie 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Have to disagree about Martins optics being better. The optics on the ACME range are fantastic. You only have to look at the Dynamo scans to see this, there only 100 watt effects but as bright as most or even brighter than some 250 watt effects ! Link to post Share on other sites
DJGAVT 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Have to disagree about Martins optics being better. The optics on the ACME range are fantastic. You only have to look at the Dynamo scans to see this, there only 100 watt effects but as bright as most or even brighter than some 250 watt effects ! That may be but no offence they look so cheap to me and dont look like they would last for the years a martin scanner would. Link to post Share on other sites
spinner 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 they look so cheap to me and dont look like they would last for the years a martin scanner would. I bought a set of 4 Acme Scimitars when Terralec first imported them ( around 10 years ago albeit not branded "Acme"). They're still in immaculate condition and performing faultlessly. Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Westcott 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 My Martin experience is a bit limited, owning as I do just a pair of Adventureres & a pair of Destroyers. However, they are all well over 10 years old and apart from bulb changes and a microphone replacement, they are still working perfectly. Speaks volumes for me and I will try to by martin in future, and hope they haven't gone downhill in the quality control. Link to post Share on other sites
infinity disco 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Have owened 4X MX1's and 2X Acrobats for over 5 years never had a problem with them ran through the showtime controller they give a top notch light show Bringing The Party To Life!!!!! www.infinitydiscouk.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites
DJGAVT 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I have 2 Martin Wizard Extremes and 4 812 Scanners none of which have had a problem (had the 812's for about 6 years and only changed 3 bulbs, the wizards over a year and never changed a bulb) Also owned Martin Acrobats for 5 years and never had a problem. Also owned a T-Rez and a raptor none of which ever broke down on me. Link to post Share on other sites
nrgize 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I have 2 Ego's and 2 martin T Rex's. The ego was £250 and now I could get a dmx twister for that price like my abstract Extreme twisters, but they are great build quality, same with the t-rex, only changed the bulb in both lights twice since i had them! Shame with Abstract Lighting tho, they used to be well known and used by most DJs, and now they dont even offer much on their website, just LED products ! Cheers Email :: info@nrgize-disco.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites
Corabar Steve 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 My oldest bit of kit is a martin light that was at least 8 years old when I bought it second hand 10 years ago. Still works perfectly Steve... Mad bad & dangerous to know Better to study for one hour with the wise, than to drink wine with the foolish. The opinions of Corabar Steve are not necessarily those of Corabar Ltd or any of it's subsidiary companies <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I think with Martin lighting it's a question of function, durabilty, ease of replacement parts and the optics. I have a pair of Martin Entours. Coming up on 2 years old, and no problems at all. They also have a range of useful features, such as bulb timer, DMX lead tester, manual adjustment of all motions etc. I like the way that all the parts inside are modular - and if I should ever need to, each section (eg: Gobo wheel 2 motor etc) can be replaced fairly easily. I Like the newer models too, the latest having slot in gobos - literally, there's a slot on the outside of the head casing, which you just eject the current gobo, and pop in a new one, just like feeding a coin into a coin slot. Link to post Share on other sites
D.X 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Well that's answered my question then :Thumbup: Link to post Share on other sites
Bolan-Boogie 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 So how good are the Martin T Rex i know they are not dmx but how good is the effect ? Link to post Share on other sites
superstardeejay 0 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I agree, its build quality, components, design, ease of use and servicing, durability and pedigree. You strip one down for a clean or service and then do the same with an Acme and you realize straight away the difference. . Link to post Share on other sites
norty303 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I'll start by saying that i own a number of Mertin lights and like them all (bar the Ego range that have a tendancy to blow boards that makes them uneconomical to repair) It's worth bearing mind that Martin buy themselves a lot of market share through their marketing tactics. The reason why lots of venues and touring companies have them is because they offer great deals to installers and touring co's alike. When the Mac500 came out they virtually gave away lots to the big companies which lead to them being the 'industry standard' moving head for a long time. Whether they were better than the competitions offerings is open to debate, and if you ask theatre and pro lighting ops which they prefer to use and maintain it'll often be one of the less well known competitors. However, for the averageman on the street, the lighting company they'll most likely have heard of is Martin. Very clever. DIY plans and pro audio related technical discussions www.speakerplans.com/forum Link to post Share on other sites
JCarey 0 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Just to answer the question about the t-rex. A band I come across from time to time has one. They point it at the ceiling. It's an excellent effect, bright and wide range of coverage. As an owner of an Acrobat, but not a DMX user, I'd go a T-rex if the Acrobat had to replace. Coverage not as good but still impressive. I bought one of the last acrobats from Thomann. In two years I've only had one bulb change and there is a story for another time to go with that. I've said this before if your doing a couple of gigs every week in the long run your better off with the more expensive better built equipment. If your doing a couple of gigs every few months then why tie up money Some will sneer but a couple of mushroom type lights used as they were designed will do a great job for those of you who don't work that often, John DJ John Carey Link to post Share on other sites
TopNotchEntertainment 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 well guys martin lighting whatever you say is plain & simply put high quality gear, long lasting, and easy to use also the gear is easy to maintian, and reliable. if you shop around for the deals... you will get the gear for a great deal less that the retail pries quoted. the martin label seems to have had a reputation for expensive, and rightly so... to keep the gear at good quality costs money. whay do you think that the cheaper lights fail early or dont seem to last as long..... build quality & quality of board componants. the martin service backup is the best..... try getting a dmx board or gobo wheel out of KAM or Prolite within 3 days !!! theold addage of YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_Mitchell 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR Spot on. Steve 5 European cups and 18 leagues, that`s what we call history. Link to post Share on other sites
titansounds 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 I wouldnt buy anything else but martin gear, ive had destoyers, pinishers, acrobats, mac250s, minimacs and the quality of the stuff is amazing, they just seem to get stronger as the years go on! 4x Mac250s and 4x mx1 scanners and you wouldnt need to buy anymore lighting ever! Link to post Share on other sites
norty303 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Don't discount some of the gear from other manufacturers though, just because it isn't so high profile as Martin. If you're spending Martin money, there are quite a few options open to you, often better value for money with equally good support networks, just not so visible in the DJ store arena. I think one of the bargains of the second hand market has to be the old Futurelight MH660. Basically became the Robe 250XT (which had a few minor problems it has to be said) but nonethe less a great featured head at a great price now. DIY plans and pro audio related technical discussions www.speakerplans.com/forum Link to post Share on other sites
TopNotchEntertainment 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 well as i pointed out earlier where could you get parts withing 3 days off the shelf with other manufacturers the chinese parts tend to have long waiting times for parts !!!!! and other unusual kit ... tends to go through different suppliers ... so again time !!! what you need is kit that is reliable .... easy to service... parts available and minimum downtime if it fails !!! martin products though expensive...... give all the above thats what you are paying for !!!! <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
norty303 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 where could you get parts withing 3 days off the shelf with other manufacturers Most other higher end manufacturers have a good support network, but it might not be so instantly obvious who they are, because of the lack of public profile. Don't forget, on tour you have to good support, but its not always Martin units you see is it. the chinese parts tend to have long waiting times for parts I never mentioned the Chinese, Futurelight and Robe are Eastern European. DIY plans and pro audio related technical discussions www.speakerplans.com/forum Link to post Share on other sites
JCarey 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Anybody know what brand of bulb Martin used to put into the Acrobats? Had to change mine last year, just not as bright as it used to be. The one I put in is a long life lamp which is one factor. I have cleaned the lens but there was little dust. Thanks John DJ John Carey Link to post Share on other sites
BK Sound 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 You cant go far wrong with Osram bulbs Sound - 32 Channel System, 2 x RCF 4Pro 6001 & 4 x RCF TTS18A Subs - 6K RMS Active System Lights - 4 x Martin Mac 250+, 4 x Assorted LED FX, 6 x 1m LED Pixelpar, 2 x 1500 W Strobes, PC Control Video - 6x4 to 14x10 ft screens & assorted projectors, plasmas, 10 DV Layers, broadcast cameras. Link to post Share on other sites
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