For A Dj You Dont Say A Lot.

[nigelwright7557 0]

so you dont visit the client beforehand to ask THEM what they want of you, it must be be great knowing automatically what customers require. oh and its really nice to know that you undercut people to get gigs,

 

in my opinion you are at a party to entertain people. :rant:

 

I did talk to the pub owner and he said play the usual disco stuff.

To be honest for £30 they got their moneys worth when I turned up, never mind DJed !

 

As for undercutting, all is fair in love and business.

Just be glad I dont live near you lol

 

The pub was full all night so I must have been entertaining or they would have left !

In fact I was playing guitar as well.

Some bloke commented I was like a DJ but had talent.

Wasnt sure if to be insulted or flattered !

 

 

Playing devils advocate...

 

if say existing dj is £250 per night

your fixed non negotional price is £200

you inform the venue your price which you charge anyway is £200 is this undercutting?

 

or is undercutting where

existing DJ is £250 per night

you find out there price and say you will do it cheaper

 

is either more scenario more moral or correct ? or should you never appraoch any venue if you know they already have a DJ ?

 

I am amazed at the attitude of some DJ's about undercutting.

Every other form of business relies on this to get the work.

If you stand the heat lower your prices or get out of the kitchen !

 

I dont see how morals come into it.

Its simple market forces of supply and demand.

 

 

 

[andyw 0]

i might not be following the plot properly here,so forgive me if i am wrong nigel,but your usual fee is £75 and you want to go out 1 a month,so do you need to undercut other dj's to get that amount of work at that price,if you undercut the other dj by doing the gig for £30 what was the other dj charging.i am just curiuos how you run your business and what you charge is up to you no one else.

i will stand back now because i think you might have lit a fuse with that last post(and i think that was the idea) :hide:

[NRG Roadshow 0]

I did talk to the pub owner and he said play the usual disco stuff.

To be honest for £30 they got their moneys worth when I turned up, never mind DJed !

 

As for undercutting, all is fair in love and business.

Just be glad I dont live near you lol

 

Your not for real are you Nigel.....I mean seriously your just out to wind up the entire forum are you not?

 

Just be glad YOU dont live near me more like.

 

Im not even going to comment on anything you say in future, this is a forum for DJs......I wouldnt even use that term loosly to describe you.

 

You are deliberatly attempting to goad people into arguments, which I believe is against the forum rules.

Edited April 6, 2008 by NRG Roadshow

[Paul Smith 0]

As for undercutting, all is fair in love and business.

Just be glad I dont live near you lol

 

I do have people who live near me that operate in a similar manner - they're not that busy and frequently ask me for work.

I am amazed at the attitude of some DJ's about undercutting.

Every other form of business relies on this to get the work.

If you stand the heat lower your prices or get out of the kitchen !

 

I dont see how morals come into it.

Its simple market forces of supply and demand.

 

In my experience (which is close to yours) Quality of Service is rated far higher than undercutting. If you are in demand then you can risk raising your prices. You might find that demand for your services actually increases if you put a realistic value on them. :shrug:

 

[shakermaker 0]

I know of people in this business that go round undercutting everyone all of the time. It's not my style to be honest and I want someone to book me because they WANT ME, whether it's because I have been recommended or because of my professionalism at the job. In my opinion, in the end the people that try to undercut everyone will get a bad name for themselves. I think that it also shows desperation for work if you have to go round undercutting people's prices.

 

Anyway, it's off topic and the whole point of this one is to say whether you use the mic a lot in your work. I did 2 functions this week. One of them I spoke almost after each track as it was a Request Night with dedications etc etc...The other function, which was a private function...I didn't do much speaking apart from the usual stuff (encouraging the guests to get up and the odd micky take here and there) and it was all cool.

 

Lastly, I know these forums are all about opinions but sometimes (some) people go out of the way just to stir it up by the looks of it. I can't see the point of it really, we are all trying to do the same thing here....aren't we?

[Gary 0]

:offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic:

 

Come on guys focus, focus.

 

This topic is about the under or over usage of microphones.

 

This topic is not about fees, wages, undercutting, digestive biscuits, bikini line care, or, or, or anything else.

 

Please don't be the continuing cause for this posters original thread to be reported, closed, locked, or moderated in any way.

[Dukesy 0]

Lastly, I know these forums are all about opinions but sometimes (some) people go out of the way just to stir it up by the looks of it. I can't see the point of it really, we are all trying to do the same thing here....aren't we?

 

"All trying to do the same thing" is not going to be a widely shared view - of course opinions will undoubtedly factor in a forums Modus Operandi, the members will have differing opinions, etc, but the reason why a forum exists is usually down to a bit more than an 'opinion' or personal view.

 

From those that join to gleam information because they are just starting out, for those that just like to read DJ related stuff to those who have exhausted all that they can from the forum and merely lurk, a forum, whatever its title and colour is most definitely not just about opinions.

Sure, some may need a little more help than others, some don't know how to ask for help and some refuse. But so as long as the members see helping one another as a benefit to all as well as ones self, then the 'point' is really worth it in the long run.

 

Naturally, there will always be those that seem to thrive and embrace upon negatives as opposed to positives in any field.

It's been said that there is too much negativity fuelled from within the mobile DJ profession.

Maybe that is a true statement.

Maybe negativity helps cement the perceptions of the profession externally?

Does everyone see things like that?

 

Would everyone share the view that if negativity was likened to 'rot', the rot within untreated will spread and eventually consume what is left? :yuck:

 

I think what we all have to consider more is that an online forum offers an expanding window into the practices and mindset of a select number of individuals whose contribution and participation represent (lasting) perceptions of our interest - the profession.

 

If the 'goa'l is to improve the perception and impressions of our profession then a positive point of note would be that professionalism doesn't end at the keyboard - in any field.

 

We are all responsible, IMHO! tongue out icon

[nigelwright7557 0]

My questions is, if you managed to "under-cut" their usual DJ, did they go back to you or him after this gig?

 

Because if they werent too keen on you wont they go back to the other dj then?

 

No, they stayed with me.

The pub manager was absolutely delighted with the price and the performance.

I was also playing guiatr as well which seemed to go down well.

The other disco company just provided disco music.

 

 

[shakermaker 0]

Well, if they were booked to do a 'Disco' in the first place then surely that's what they provided? So you come along with your guitar and add that little bit extra and they go with you instead? That's wierd to me. I make my own electronic music etc...so does that mean I can take my laptop and synth along and then nip to your venue and say "Hey, forget about him and his guitar, I can do my own music aswell alongside my Disco set up and I'll do it all for £50.00 for you" - Not that I would do that but come on guys.

 

...and also Dukesy, when I said...words to the effect of "We are all trying to do the same thing", I meant it. We all joined this forum because it is a DJ's / Mobile DJ's forum and that's what I meant. Tips and Advice as well as comments from experienced professionals all help but unfortunately there are always negatives too.

 

I don't claim to know everything and all the in's and out's and I hardly ever post anymore because sometimes I think forums in general are far too regimented. I like this forum believe it or not but sometimes the negativity gets on my nerves.

[UKHero 0]

LOL! You are joking?

 

Perhaps we should have a "mention of DJ equipment brands - free month

 

Lol some people would never post during that month then if they can not include a plug lol :dan+ju:

 

Maybe we are being unfair to Nigel he might be worth what he charges have a look at this.

 

Click here to hear Nigel play along

 

Nik

[NRG Roadshow 0]

No, they stayed with me.

The pub manager was absolutely delighted with the price and the performance.

I was also playing guiatr as well which seemed to go down well.

The other disco company just provided disco music.

 

Well of course the manager was delighted.......your going in their for £30!!!

What do you think he is gonna say "well I think you should be charging more"......you got the booking on price alone, nothing to do with DJing.......

 

Oh look a DJ that plays guitar.....wow theirs a novelty.......did you ever think about joining a band and leaving the DJing to the profesionals instead of trying to be somthing your not?

 

Oh

I just broke my promise not to comment on anything Nigel says.......damn and blast.

I still say that your not serious, your just deliberatelty trying to annoy everyone on the forum.

 

Is thier anyway of blocking a certain persons posts?

 

[andyw 0]

i think we are getting close to if not overstepping the mark on this thread guys

 

nrg yes there is a way of blocking someone.go to the persons profile on the top right handside you will see a box saying profile options click on that and it will give you the option of ignoring user