4th July Childrens Party

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@Jenx, I've asked a couple of times but you haven't answered, are you a regular or a special/cspo?

One of the reasons I was thinking about was how do you manage to do discos, doesn't being in the police stop you from planning ahead as you don't know what shift you will be on?

Just wondering.

 

Jim

[DJ JENX 0]

@Jenx, I've asked a couple of times but you haven't answered, are you a regular or a special/cspo?

One of the reasons I was thinking about was how do you manage to do discos, doesn't being in the police stop you from planning ahead as you don't know what shift you will be on?

Just wondering.

 

Jim

 

HI Jim

 

Sorry I didnt notice your question. I am part time actually, work as a special constable. Been in for 5 years i think now. Joined as a regular but there were some complications so a special now. Work in the DVLA full time and also instruct in the Sea Cadet Corps voluntarily. I work my police shift around everything else. For example I do not have any work on this weekend so im probably in Sat and sunday to make up the hours. I can work whatever shifts I want, and then get called in for important or special occassions and drug warrants etc, or if someone off sick.

 

 

I think, and this is only my opinion, that the main problem with this country, which causes negative effect on the police forces and creates this "hate the police" attitude is the Law.

 

UK Law is absolutely terrible. Someone can kill and get a week stay in the hilton as punishment, and then some gran can not afford to pay council tax and get a few months in a high security prison!

 

I mean that basically says it all.

 

I know from experience that figures do make a difference, I also know that the paperwork does. An example was when I first joined my tutor and I were doing nothing other than patrolling. A call came in for a shoplifter who was being held in the local supermarket but because we were due to finish in an hour and the whole process would take up to 6 hours to deal with my tutor did not respond. Nobody on shift answered and the guy was there for nearly half an hour before eventually the duty inspector sent some people.

 

The law needs to change, but so does the entire process of arrest. Its easy to arrest someone for fighting, half hour and its done, you can deal with them the next day, however, a shoplifter means that you have to deal with them there and then. You have to go get CCTV, Statements, cost up the theft, process the person, interview, bail, and then all of that takes a whole shift.

 

I cant see why police wont deal with a trailer theft, at the end of the day all they need to do is go around, see if there is any evidence, if so alert SOCO to attend the next day and give you a crime reference. There is then going to be a negative figure on the system because you could not solve it, that is true yes, but there are many of these types of crimes.

 

There needs to be a major shake up to UK law and the entire police structure.

 

In my opinion we need more prisons, and we need tougher sentences for those persistant offenders. Then we need to get teams of civilians working in the police stations whos role is to take a criminal off the arresting officer so he just needs to leave a statement and back out on shift.

 

But, who am I?!

[deejaymitch 0]

Vote Jenx

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the main problem with this country, which causes negative effect on the police forces and creates this "hate the police" attitude is the Law

Methinks someone conveniently overlooked the Thatcher era when the police on huge overtime payments revelled in going out "miner-bashing" (who's families could now barely afford a stale crust.)

 

Of course, this community-breaking jamboree at the behest of Herr Thatcher was all done by transporting the "miner-bashers" up and down the country at colossal expense so they didn't have to :poo: on their own doorstep.

 

What ye sow, so shall ye reap.

 

In my opinion we need more prisons, and we need tougher sentences for those persistant offenders.

 

The greatest deterrent to crime, by far, is the risk of getting caught.

 

If you have a criminal mind, and you know the odds of getting caught by our existing police farce are less than 20%, you'll take your chances.

 

If we could change that, so the criminal mind recognises that the risk of getting caught is 80%, you'd suddenly find the need for all those extra prisons and tougher sentences would fall away rapidly.

 

But, we can only work with who we've got huh?

[eazy 0]

 

If we could change that, so the criminal mind recognises that the risk of getting caught is 80%, you'd suddenly find the need for all those extra prisons and tougher sentences would fall away rapidly.

 

But, we can only work with who we've got huh?

 

 

spot on its the pervention is better than cure senario :Thumbup:

[DJ JENX 0]

spot on its the pervention is better than cure senario :Thumbup:

I think its probably a mixture of both we really need to be effective.

 

Take this as an example, of course I am not using real names, we will just call him bob bobson.

 

So, Bob Bobson is a 32 year old man, he has now been arrested around 200 times, in the past 3 years. From the age of 13 he was known to the police for petty crimes, i.e shoplifting, stealing car radios, and useless items from sheds.

He then got arrested at 16 for stealing a car. This was the first time he was ever caught and he got away with a caution. A week later he was caught again. Same result.

From then he continued and started breaking into houses and other such things.

At the age of 19 he was caught for stealing a milk van....yep really a milk van. Anyway he was given a community service order, to which he naturally ignored.

Following several arrests for car thefts he finally got told he was going to prison. Oh and banned from driving....he had no licence....and was banned for a year. (he was in prison for a year)

 

So anyway, about 6 months later hes left out, because as we all know they normally serve 6 months in prison and then get released, and providing they behave, they stay out.

 

In the 6 months he was away, car related thefts dropped in the small town by almost 65%

 

The month he was realeased, 22 cars got broken into, 5 were stolen and found burnt out, and 6 houses were broken into. ( usually there are none in this town)

 

No evidence could seem to match him and for the next year he continued his rampage, often taunting the CID officers who knew what he was up to but couldnt prove a thing.

 

Then one day he got caught in a stolen car driving off from a petrol station. A pursuit saw him drive almost 100 miles across the force area until he crashed on a narrow road into a learner driver. He got a 2 year driving ban (yet he had no licence) and he got 16 months in prison....

 

As you can probably imagine this has just continued and today he his still out on the streets and back in the prison as often as he changes his underwear.

 

I believe that over the years, this man has served around 6 years in prison. In this time hes probably stolen around 100 cars, stolen thousands of car radios and made thousands of people victims of his crimes. I would estimate that the waste of police time in chasing this idiot around could have paid for a new hospital!

 

Now, if Bob was put away for a decent amount the second time he went to prison, say 10 years, then he would only just be getting out now. (this is if we didnt leave them out after 5)

 

In that time i wonder how many people wouldnt have had to wake up to finding their living room ransacked, their cars gone, or their windows broken.

 

Putting an extra 50,000 police on the streets would make people feel safer, but I doubt it would stop people like Bob committing crimes.

[supersound dj 0]

what would do Bob the world of good would be a piece of engraved marble above his head and a rope burn round his neck.

 

were just too soft.

 

oh and it didnt help as A couple of weeks ago a friend of bob helped himself to an amp out of my shed.

 

paul