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Would you do a local charity function free

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#1 Big B

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 01:14 PM

On friday we did a 1970's theme disco for a charity which is local to us ( 10 mins away ) and we did it free for them.

I have to say that we did get bookings from it and we were asked for a card.

If you were approached by a local charity would you do it free?
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#2 Kingy

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 03:09 PM

No. I would pay the same ammount as all the other guests for a ticket. They may pay 5 per ticket but I would be giving up a nights wage, hardly fair is it....??

I would offer a discount but only of about 10%.

I can never see the point of doing it free. Co-incidentaly I have been part of the team where in the last two Saturdays we have raised 30k with absolutely no discounts, however I have acted as compere for both at no extra charge.

Edited by Kingy, 21 September 2008 - 03:10 PM.

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 03:57 PM

When I first started doing mobile, I offered to do the gig for free but was told that I would be paid.
Registered charities will happily spend (wisely) to accumulate!

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#4 eazy

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 04:14 PM

have done and will continue to do free nights for charity !!!

it only really costs time and can help raise lots for the charity , im lucky enough to earn a good living out of dj'ing so dont see the big deal about giving up one night !!!

it only ever happens maybe once a year !!!!

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 04:15 PM

Earlier this year, I provided music+pa to a local school for their summer fete. This was FOC, and I'd be happy to do it again next year.
As for supporting an official charity, I'd consider it on a case-by-case basis.

Kingys 30K fundraiser can easily afford to pay market rates - but a small local good cause, where the night may only raise 1-2K need all the help they can get IMO.

The up-side to these public events, can be more exposure - "...The Crowd were entertained by XYZ Disco" in the local Paper is free advertising :-)

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE(eazy @ Sep 21 2008, 05:14 PM) View Post

have done and will continue to do free nights for charity !!!

it only really costs time and can help raise lots for the charity , im lucky enough to earn a good living out of dj'ing so dont see the big deal about giving up one night !!!

it only ever happens maybe once a year !!!!


Be careful though, word spreads quickly and where do you draw the line, who do you say "Sorry No" to...???

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 07:40 PM

I am happy to work for free for charity events, and have turned down the offer of payment on occasions. I've had to decline some jobs as I was already booked, but if I have the date available when they ask, and I support the cause, I'll happily agree. I don't get bombarded with requests as people don't like to abuse my 'generousity'. I think I'll be doing a total of 4 this year and, as I work a couple of nights every week, that's no sacrifice.
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 08:02 PM

Did a free Xmas party for the local Surestart last year
Would do it again - kids loved it

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 08:12 PM

No, unless I have a close affinity to the charity.

Done alot of charity giggs over the years, and only a few were real good causes. eg PTA discos are not charity to me, but I would for example heavily discount a cancer or Autisim type function, but as a pro, it has always been by policy to never work for free. Always cover your expenes or charge full price and hand back half of the fee. This gesture goes down well.

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 08:42 PM

I'm with Norfolk on this as far as local charities with whom I have an affinity with are concerned.

I do the local PTA discos for free (for the moment), as if I charged it wouldn't be worth them holding a disco at all, as there's probably a maximum of 40 kids who attend, plus my kids have been to this school and one still attends.
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 08:52 PM

Hi,
having read the various views on charity functions for free.
may i make a sugigestion, one which i do for the same charity every year.
as has been mentioned all charites can and will pay for a dj/ presenters services, including equipment
hire etc.
So, the local charity that i provide my services for, pay me, and i in return donate my earnings back to the
charity.
This to me would be a solution that works well for me.
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 11:40 PM

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Registered charities will happily spend (wisely) to accumulate!


Yes indeed they will, you have to spend money to make money with anything in this life, charities know this, they may ask if you will do it for free to try their luck, but I have had it on a number of occasions where I have given them a 20%-50% discount and they have still booked.

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The up-side to these public events, can be more exposure - "...The Crowd were entertained by XYZ Disco FOR FREE" in the local Paper is free advertising :-)


I can see the point that it gets you exposure if your helping a charity, but does it get you the right kind of exposure? If your not carfull you will become known as a soft touch for charitys and every charity in the local area will be approaching you for freebies.
Im not saying that DOES happen, but it might.
I have no problem at all with helping charities out where I can, but where do you draw the line, they are all worthy causes in their own way, but you cant do too many discounted charity bookings, we are here at the end of the day to run a business and to make a proffit.

I did a wedding back in June, and the bride has just approached me via email as she wants me to do a fundraising disco for a local girl that has leukemia and the word FREE has been mentioned in the email, Im sure you will agree its a very worthy cause, Id like to be able to help all these worthy causes, but I cant help everyone.
I will do her a very sizable discount, but Im not going to give up a nights earnings and do the gig for free, I would at least expect my expenses and some kind of wage, maybe 75 or so for a night, but I wont go any lower than that Im afraid.

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So, the local charity that i provide my services for, pay me, and i in return donate my earnings back to the
charity.


I dont understand, if you donate your earnings back to them, whats the point in them paying you anything at all, you are in effect working for free anyway.

Edited by NRG Roadshow, 21 September 2008 - 11:42 PM.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 01:09 AM

QUOTE(NRG Roadshow @ Sep 22 2008, 12:40 AM) View Post

I dont understand, if you donate your earnings back to them, whats the point in them paying you anything at all, you are in effect working for free anyway.


Neither do I, and it's much worse than that, by accepting payment he's also incuring a tax liability on his non existant 'earnings,' and then he's donating these earnings to the good cause. So not only is he losing a prime nights earnings (all charity do's are held at the weekend aren't they?) but he's also aquired a tax liability on his non existant earnings plus he still has his fixed overheads to pay out of his own pocket!! That's a triple whammy in my book. I'm not anti charity, and I will work for reduced fees, but the bar staff gets paid, the venue gets paid, the venue manager gets paid, and the caterers get paid, so why should I be the only mug who's 300 quid + out of pocket?

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 01:58 AM

QUOTE(NRG Roadshow @ Sep 22 2008, 12:40 AM) View Post



I did a wedding back in June, and the bride has just approached me via email as she wants me to do a fundraising disco for a local girl that has leukemia and the word FREE has been mentioned in the email, Im sure you will agree its a very worthy cause, Id like to be able to help all these worthy causes, but I cant help everyone.
I will do her a very sizable discount, but Im not going to give up a nights earnings and do the gig for free, I would at least expect my expenses and some kind of wage, maybe 75 or so for a night, but I wont go any lower than that Im afraid.




if you are able to do her a sizable discount i'm guessing your not booked for that night anyway ???

so you havent got a nights earnings to give up in the first place and really just cashing in on the event IMHO

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 05:22 AM

The registered charities who have approached me have been happy to pay my fee! I've donated my service/availability for FREE to encourage others to donate towards a good cause, especially if I have a good run of gigs. To be fair, as much as people can charge what they like (because they can) when it comes to charity, I personally don't think it is wrong to make a donation or choose to take a 'cut in your rate' if you can afford to do so.
I've had several conversations with a mobile DJ from Kent (5 years experience) and recently discussed fee structures as a sole trader (full time operator).

He said he worked out he personally needs to clear 1543.31 per month or 356.14 per week, (or broken down further 50.87 per day!)
His mortgage, council tax and water bills total over 950.00 per month and he spends around 220 a month on food.

These are his figures broken down, however, purchases such as music, fuel, repairs have not been included in the first bit:

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Telephone, advertising and stationary - 38.46 per week
(Office Use) Electricity & Heating - 10.57 per week
Vehicle Insurance and Breakdown Cover - 10 per week
Mobile Phone and wi-fi (PAYG) - 10 per week
Equipment Insurance 4.23 per week
Car tax - 3.55
Web Host - 3.25 per week
PAT - 2.79 per week
National Insurance - 2.35 per week
PLI Insurance (10m) - 0.95p per week

he said these weekly outgoings brought forward totalled 86.15.
This works out as 373.31 per month.

His fee is 315 per gig which includes provision for tax, a 15% mark up and 66 for fuel (tank) although this varies slightly for seasonal bookings. His reservation fee is 50 and he accepts the balance either 14 days before the function or cash on night.
He charges 30 per half hour entered for overtime.

He has little need to purchase albums or downloads as he is a specialist retro disco service but still buys music if required.
Interestingly, he also provides Karaoke!

His diary is pretty busy with private bookings until December, with parties booked here and there for next year, and he's looking at adding 10 to his fee next April.
He said he refuses to work directly for venues who pay less than 250 per gig.
OK, he is based in the South East and he can travel across Kent, Essex and of course London! But in the same breath, there are MANY areas in the SE that would not entertain his price. In fact, several London Boroughs (sp) he avoids.

Asked how much he would charge if he had a full time job and DJ'd / KD'd part-time, would he buy the ProDub Licence and how worried was he about his own future of DJ'ing, he said he would charge around 150 - 200 a gig, that the proDub licence didn't apply to his service and that the future was pretty uncertain although so far, not too bad for him!

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