Pro Dub Licence Producer

[Dukesy 0]

Have you been asked to show your Pro Dub Licence by a client or venue (not by a DJ passing on a gig)

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[Andy Westcott 0]

No, but then a lot of my venues tend to be pub function rooms or village halls, where no-one really cares.

[Bouncy Dancefloor 0]

i got asked by a client for the first time yesterday

 

she'd rang a few DJ's and one of them had done a hard sale, saying that he had a professional DJ licence and to make sure you dont employ a DJ without one!!

 

I then explained that you dont need one if you are using store bought CD's!

[Kingy 0]

 

she'd rang a few DJ's and one of them had done a hard sale, saying that he had a professional DJ licence and to make sure you dont employ a DJ without one!!

 

 

How "professional" of him!!!

[Reverandfunk 0]

Be interesting to know the details about those who have been asked for the license by a venue, I can imagine if asked by a client its only because another DJ has told the client a load of olds rubbish lol

 

[McCardle 1]

saying that he had a professional DJ licence and to make sure you dont employ a DJ without one!!

 

Obviously he had to use this as a marketing extension rather than rely on his abilities, talents and marketing skills, which probably ended at the point where he picked up the phone and said 'hello'

 

I hope you explained to the client and pointed them in the direction of the correct information on the official website, and asked them to read for themselves that not ALL deejays require this license and CD / Vinyl using ones are effectively exempt, and maybe she should not even be considering booking deejays whose ethos consists of client mis-information in order to secure work. I'm sure that most deejay's can happily provide her with references from several other clients, the type of references which don't come with a £250 price tag!

Edited October 1, 2008 by McCardle

[UKHero 0]

Did a big corporate job tonight for The County Councils of the UK in Birmingham and no PDL (Pro Dub Licence) was required... Mind you no PLI or PAT was asked for also....

 

 

Nik

[supersound dj 0]

Thats unusual Nik our council events require PLI PAT and 10m PL.

[Gary (GDK) 0]

I havent being asked for PAT or PLI since May!

[UKHero 0]

Thats unusual Nik our council events require PLI PAT and 10m PL.

 

This was not a council event but an event for council's lol.... So maybe not so tight on legislation...

 

 

Nik

[Bouncy Dancefloor 0]

did the gig on Friday that i mentioned above

 

was not asked to produce any documents whatsoever, infact the venue were very keen to take business cards etc off me for future work instead :p

[deejaymitch 0]

did the gig on Friday that i mentioned above

 

was not asked to produce any documents whatsoever, infact the venue were very keen to take business cards etc off me for future work instead :p

 

Doesn't surprise me in the least. I've found that, for the most part, when you play in a venue for the first time (as a one-off booking) the full-time staff (function manager etc) see you as an inconvenience, are suspicious of everything and are as unhelpful as possible.

 

However, if you are professional they are a lot friendlier when you come back as they don't have to worry about you. And if they get lots of good feedback and think you can make them some money, they'll kiss your boots.

[MintyDave 0]

Never been asked and only been aked for pli twice

 

 

 

she'd rang a few DJ's and one of them had done a hard sale, saying that he had a professional DJ licence and to make sure you dont employ a DJ without one!!

 

 

 

How "professional" of him!!!

 

 

There a couple of firms round here that do simular, they frighten clients & venues with regards to PLI and PAT then have the cheek to say that they are the only professional firms in the area with such documentation

 

[Enfield KJ 0]

Hi all,

 

You wont like this one!

 

I have never been asked to produce my Pro Dub Licence and i have never seen or met another DJ with one.

 

I did however receive an email from PRS asking me if i would like to inform DJ's who didn't have one, that they did actually need it.

 

Also if i decided to join ranks with them, they would take 5% off my next Pro Dub Licence! I can't remember the exact percentage but i think that's what it was.

 

You will be pleased to hear that i declined :pro:

 

If anyone decides to buy a licence, please do it through me and i will get 5% next time :Thumbup:

 

Paul

 

 

[deejaymitch 0]

Hi all,

 

You wont like this one!

 

I have never been asked to produce my Pro Dub Licence and i have never seen or met another DJ with one.

 

I did however receive an email from PRS asking me if i would like to inform DJ's who didn't have one, that they did actually need it.

 

Also if i decided to join ranks with them, they would take 5% off my next Pro Dub Licence! I can't remember the exact percentage but i think that's what it was.

 

You will be pleased to hear that i declined :pro:

 

If anyone decides to buy a licence, please do it through me and i will get 5% next time :Thumbup:

 

Paul

 

Fair play to you Paul. You clearly run your business professionally whilst maintaining your dignity and having a healthy respect and regard for your peers.

 

[McCardle 1]

Interesting poll. I would have expected the results to be a lot higher, especially in light of the statistics given on a recent Pro-Dub newsletter, which stated almost 7000 venues had been personally visited along with over 2500 individual DJ's.

 

 

[spinner 0]

Interesting poll. I would have expected the results to be a lot higher, especially in light of the statistics given on a recent Pro-Dub newsletter, which stated almost 7000 venues had been personally visited along with over 2500 individual DJ's.

 

 

The letter I received mentioned 6900 pubs, clubs, hotels etc. but nothing about DJs.

 

[McCardle 1]

The letter I received mentioned 6900 pubs, clubs, hotels etc. but nothing about DJs.

 

The one I refer to was sent out on 1st July, from Darren Haynes, with the subject ' Press Announcement: Professional Dubbing Licence - One-Year Old Today'

 

(i never got a piece of cake though)

 

I would happily post the contents of the email, but in doing so I would be disclosing the email contents to others and thus breaking the confidentiality terms in the email signature (despite these being in direct contradiction to the meaning / point of a press release!).

 

I haven't quoted exact figures for much the same reason, however rest assured they ARE on there, listed alongside many other statistics and can be found under the heading 'Venue Education & Enforcement', and the figure quoted is just above 2500

Edited July 18, 2009 by McCardle

[Andy Goodtimes 0]

I bought a licence last year as a local DJ had some leaflets printed and sent them to venues, the leaflets were totally misleading implying that all DJs need a licence, I was given one by a venue manager that is a friend of mine and I do know who the DJ is too. Thing is it did spook some venues and therefore I have been asked a few times. prob wouldn't have been asked if he never sent his leaflets round. Also, talking to the venues I know suggests that he has done himself more harm than good by attempting to stir it up...its also lost him a lot of good will from other local DJs too.

 

I'm glad to see the new reduced rate of £100 for second and subsequent years, its much fairer, the card is useful too.

[Dukesy 0]

I bought a licence last year as a local DJ had some leaflets printed and sent them to venues, the leaflets were totally misleading implying that all DJs need a licence

 

Yes, and if this happened in any other industry, it would be known as gaining a pecuniary advantage at best, or even outright fraud at worst.

 

Many DJ's seem to be blissfully immune in feeling that THEY are NOT subject to the same laws and ethics as everybody else in business and can go merrily along damaging the reputation(s) of others or using misleading or non factual information to push themselves ahead as they see fit.

 

It's amazing sometimes - how some DJ's are quick to complain and openly tarnish the reputation of some other service provider whom they themselves have used, whether its an agent, disco equipment retailer or even a client, but at the same time may be flouting various OFT or other commercial legislation themselves, or even be in the process of misleading their clients with what is written on their paperwork!

 

Sometimes it gets even worse, when for example in relation of those who criticise and commercially attempt to tarnish the reputation of something which they aren't even a part of, or a service of which they have never even been a client.

 

Its astounding just how many DJ's out there seem to be apt at being able to be judge and jury over something or a service which they have never used, bought nor been a member of?!

 

Those types of statement when made publicly have a habit of turning out very expensive when they are challenged and asked to demonstrate under penalty of perjury what evidence they have to factually back up the false allegations or statements which they may have been making.

 

What goes around comes around!

 

Who knows, maybe 2009 might bring a test case of some description which may serve as a warning to others treading this path and at the same time, if its rids the industry of some of those who routinely engage in such gutter level practices then it can only benefit the rest of us, because bad business practices and poor ethics exist and damage at ALL levels.

[Swingcats 0]

I bought a licence last year as a local DJ had some leaflets printed and sent them to venues, the leaflets were totally misleading implying that all DJs need a licence, I was given one by a venue manager that is a friend of mine and I do know who the DJ is too. Thing is it did spook some venues and therefore I have been asked a few times. prob wouldn't have been asked if he never sent his leaflets round. Also, talking to the venues I know suggests that he has done himself more harm than good by attempting to stir it up...its also lost him a lot of good will from other local DJs too.

 

I'm glad to see the new reduced rate of £100 for second and subsequent years, its much fairer, the card is useful too.

 

 

Just read the PRS sites prodube pages and no mention of a reduced fee for renewing the licence? Funny that.

[McCardle 1]

Another statistic included in this newsletter was the fact that DJ's are still the majority subscribers of this license. Again, I won't break confidence and quote figures but it was more than 75%. I must admit that I find it amazing that there are still collectively more DJ's out there, than the combined interests of Fitness Instructors, Bands, Solo Artists, Pubs, Social Clubs, Coach Drivers, Taxi drivers and any other entity playing converted music in a qualifying public capacity.

 

Interestingly, I was on holiday the other week and visited a pub (shock, horror), in this pub was some weird freestanding Ipod adaptor thing which looked more hi-fi than professional. Either way it was connected to and playing through the pub PA. Being a nosey git and since the bar was slow, I engaged the staff in chit chat. The guy behind the bar turned out to be the manager, eventually the talk turned to music and the ipod contraption-athingymajig

 

He reported how good it was to have an almost endless supply of music without having to change CD's or go to the expense of installing a jukebox. I asked casually what the ipod contained and he said he didn't know as the bar staff usually brought along plugged in their own Ipods.

 

Now even assuming that the venue has its own PDL, then under the same individuality terms of the issue of the DJ version, it would not cover those ipods owned by members of staff, and that they would each have to seek and buy their own personal PDL? for any conversion which had taken place.

 

This was just one venue. How many other pubs, clubs, theme parks and venues open to the public are doing the same?.

Edited July 21, 2009 by McCardle

[Marble 0]

I get asked once a year from the same venue for PLI and PAT ( and thats only because it's run by an ex-dj).

 

Never been asked for my Pro-dub License, but do make a point of stating to anyone who books me they are welcome to check through my CD case for copy's one hour before I start and to have a quick peeky boo at what I'm doing whilst the show takes place, mainly so I can see how many venues know about it. Everyone has given me a puzzled face when I tell them about it.

 

 

 

[UKHero 0]

Then stop telling them it will only become another stick that venues will beat us over the head with at some point lol

 

Nik