Pro Mobile

[DJ Barney 0]

Im assuming most of you subscribe to pro mobile?

 

Did anyone happen to catch my article? Any comments on it?

 

[andyw 0]

i used to subscribe but did not feel it was worth the money (think you will be surprised how few people buy it on here,but i could be wrong)but thats another thread.would you like to enlighten us to what your article was about

[YourBigEvent 0]

Complete waste of £2.50 in my opinion.

[Kingy 0]

Complete waste of £2.50 in my opinion.

 

And mine, why pay to read advert after advert.

[deejaymitch 0]

Had never heard of it before today. Just looked at the website, doesn't appeal to me.

[FrankieJ 0]

I disagree I think its great that someone out there is supporting the mobile DJ, most magazines these days are targeted at the club jocks.

 

Plus I just signed up for another 12 issues and got the Jive Bunny greatest hits for free....BONUS.

 

Barney I only skipped through the magazine quickly but will have a good read and let you know. Was your article the featured disco?

[Danno13 0]

Had never heard of it before today. Just looked at the website, doesn't appeal to me.

 

A magazine all about Mobile DJ-ing.. that doesn't appeal to a Mobile DJ? How did you work that one out?

 

I think its great and there's loads of useful content in each issue, the adverts are for DJ related stuff anyway, so I don't see how thats such a big deal.

 

IMO, its the kind of thing we need to support, as if we don't, then no-one will bother anymore...

 

(oh, and it's free with NADJ or SEDA membership anyway..)

 

Sorry Barney, didn't mean to take your topic off-topic, I've not read your part yet, infact I've only had time to read a couple of bits so far...

Edited January 22, 2009 by Danno13

[deejaymitch 0]

A magazine all about Mobile DJ-ing.. that doesn't appeal to a Mobile DJ? How did you work that one out?

 

I also work in the civil service, but never enjoy the civil service magazines. When I worked in a bank, I never enjoyed finance magazines. When I was a bookie, I need enjoyed their trade magazine. I have tattoos but don't buy tattoo magazines. I'm a lad (apparently) but don't buy lads mags. Even when it comes to the topics I do buy magazines about, there are certain titles I like and certain titles I hate.

 

So that's how I work that one out.

[Danno13 0]

Thanks for explaining. I just thought one would take an interest in the industry in which they operate... you obviously do because you participate in this forum, I just assumed ProMobile would be of similar interest, but I was obviously wrong smile icon

Edited January 22, 2009 by Danno13

[Kingy 0]

Thanks for explaining. I just thought one would take an interest in the industry in which they operate... you obviously do because you participate in this forum, I just assumed ProMobile would be of similar interest, but I was obviously wrong smile icon

 

Not wishing to sound like some kind of oracle, but these magazines are probably OK for those starting out. I retailed gear for over 5 years and have been a rep within the industry. Couple that with 30 years this year as an active DJ.....there is little of much interest in this type of publication for me. I bought a few back copies at Castl;e Donnington and thought it was poor to be honest.

 

I can fuly understand Mitch's comments too....

 

Harris subscribes to Worzel Weekly, popular down his way!!

[Danno13 0]

I totally disagree, there are articles in there aimed at all levels, whether its related to DJing or the business/marketing/sales side of things and also just general interest articles such as featured roadshows, music reviews etc.

 

I don't think anyone can honestly say they have nothing left to learn, or there is nothing they can improve about their business or peformance.

Edited January 22, 2009 by Danno13

[McCardle 1]

I'd have to learn to read....

[Dukesy 0]

I also work in the civil service, but never enjoy the civil service magazines. When I worked in a bank, I never enjoyed finance magazines. When I was a bookie, I need enjoyed their trade magazine. I have tattoos but don't buy tattoo magazines. I'm a lad (apparently) but don't buy lads mags. Even when it comes to the topics I do buy magazines about, there are certain titles I like and certain titles I hate.

 

So that's how I work that one out.

Yes.

I used to work in the glamour photography industry in the 90s....you know where this is heading! :karen:

 

I don't believe DJs are totally dismissing the 'importance' of what a 'DJ' magazine can do for the profession. IMO, P.M. doesn't deserve the kind of belittling those have served and levelled at other areas of the DJ sector which also aim at serving DJs, and neither does it require individuals to make considered assessments of its qualities - you either CHOOSE to read or not.

 

I've met various DJs who have said that they read it, and others who bin their free magazine. Retailers I've met, some won't allow the mag in their shop, but some others do.

[DJ Barney 0]

I cant believe my ears... we as an industry have one magazine, and it is absolutely filled with everything from kit reviews, profiles (like mine just done) charts, future releases, techs corner, marketing ideas and many other articles all relevant like the much debated car/van/or trailor use.

 

Theres plenty to read, and i am almost gob smacked that people have slated it, in some cases before even reading a copy! I would suggest taking the offer of the free sample before passing judgement.

 

As far as the content goes, your always welcome to volenteer your own articles, like i did.

[Dukesy 0]

And there lies a problem - the interpretation of the word 'industry'.

 

Sure, DJ'ing is an activity that many people are involved in, and it's especially something that has become commercialized....but standardized, hmmmm?

[Bouncy Dancefloor 0]

i used to borrow a mate copy to read, i stopped reading after the "featured roadshow" two months running was NOT a Mobile Disco

 

One had a cube of trussing around the dancefloor with LOADS of Martin Mac250's hanging from it

 

The other had a Funktion One sound system

 

Although very pretty and everything, thats not my marketplace, i do Mobile Disco's

[McCardle 1]

Not wanting to make a direct comment on the publication in question because I have never read it. However I do think that magazines in general have had their day, and even the top sellers are struggling to make the sales and VFD figures which they had five or ten years ago, there was a documentary on Channel 4 about it last summer, with an editor of one of the big magazines taking part, he was pretty negative about the future too. Lets be honest, they are just fodder for Doctors' waiting rooms and the recycling bin these days.

 

Its part of the natural lifecycle as technology evolves, just like Email is rapidly taking over from the art of writing a letter, and Skype saves money on phone calls, and just how many people are saving a few quid by watching the news, or reading the BBC websites as opposed to buying a daily paper?, and will this trend continue.

 

If there is a burning desire for 15 minutes of fame, then anybody can write an interview and post it on their own site - its called an 'About me / About Us' page - go on, be a devil and try it, clients love it and they do work and do you some good and best of all YOU reap all of the benefits from the fruits of your efforts. After all, wouldn't you want to know more about the outsider whom you are not only paying to provide a service but also were inviting and entrusting to enter into your little intimate family get together?.

 

if you want a bit more public attention then post it on a forum or better still and for more 'viewers' record a video interview or a video of your show and upload it to youtube.

 

Personally, when choosing a lighting effect I find actual videos on websites / youtube or pictures taken in situ at actual functions to be of more use than a written review or even a set of nicely produced manufacturers photos set in a studio environment and wearing their Sunday best. This way I can see the effect for myself, rather than just rely on one person enthusing over their new aquisition, of course they are going to 'big it up' as they've just perhaps spent a fortune on it, they are hardly going to admit that they are not happy with it are they. You only have to read mixed reviews over the years on the Bose L1's to see how variations in opinions are vast, and that one persons review may not always be indicitive of their peers.

 

My opinion on reviewing sound equipment remains unchanged, and I don't think you can do this properly on any forum, website, magazine. You need to see and hear this sort of thing for yourself. Sure, read the reviews, ask for advice on the forums, and make a shortlist based on suggest / advice from others but the only way to make the decision is to see and hear it in person and that inevitably means a trip to the dealers showroom.

Edited January 22, 2009 by McCardle

[andyw 0]

i subscribe for 1 year, and while i woul;d admit in that time there was some very interesting articles they were too few and too far apart,someone mentioned the adverts and i found them tobe the same advertisers offering the same gear at the same prices every month so after a while they were not worth reading(which is the same with all the magazines i buy).yes you could write in and get advice,but i can do that on a forum and get the advice i require in minutes not weeks.

[deejaymitch 0]

It's another one of these cases where no one is right and no one is wrong. McCardle makes some very valid points, especially about the various other media competing with magazines, and about reviews of equipment.

 

It's simple - if you like the magazine, buy it and enjoy it. If you don't, don't. If you're interested in checking it out, get the free sample. If you're not, don't.

 

And I can't believe no one had made any jokes about Dukesy's zoom lense, over-exposure etc etc

Edited January 23, 2009 by deejaymitch

[Andy Dunn 0]

i used to borrow a mate copy to read, i stopped reading after the "featured roadshow" two months running was NOT a Mobile Disco

 

One had a cube of trussing around the dancefloor with LOADS of Martin Mac250's hanging from it

 

The other had a Funktion One sound system

 

Although very pretty and everything, thats not my marketplace, i do Mobile Disco's

 

If you went into a disco,paid good money on the door and went in only to find the sound system was rubbish,the lightshow was rubbish etc etc what would you think?

 

My point is that the systems you are commenting on ARE mobile discos but on a much grander scale than others perhaps.

 

Just because they can afford Funktion One sound systems,Mac 250 lighting effects etc does not take them out of the bracket of a mobile disco.Some people have the space and budget to pay for such systems and therefore there must be a market for it.

 

If you don't want to take out such a system then that's your choice but don't dismiss the systems you say as not mobile discos because they obviously are!

[McCardle 1]

My point is that the systems you are commenting on ARE mobile discos but on a much grander scale than others perhaps.

 

Very true, but also remember that potential readers, and those paying for your publication don't all fit neatly into that or any one category either. Unless of course you are publishing the deejay version of the 'Cotswold Life'. If you are going to appeal to the entire market, then you have to diversify in content to appeal to all readers too.

 

Sure, feature the Dj's with £10k sound systems, but don't forget the ones with mid sized rigs and budgets to match either, because your potential readership and marketplace is bound to contain those examples.

Edited January 23, 2009 by McCardle

[Bouncy Dancefloor 0]

they are hardly representing the average DJ (their marketplace) by showing discos with funktion one and mac 250's, infact it could even be considered elitist

 

they should be featuring discos that do things differently, not just more expensively!

 

oh and sorry to start another debate, with a cube of trussing around the dancefloor and covered in mac 250's, thats not a disco! Thats a Mobile Nightclub, im pretty sure they dont market themselves as a Disco and theyd be offended if they were described as such!

[DJ Barney 0]

they are hardly representing the average DJ (their marketplace) by showing discos with funktion one and mac 250's, infact it could even be considered elitist

 

they should be featuring discos that do things differently, not just more expensively!

 

oh and sorry to start another debate, with a cube of trussing around the dancefloor and covered in mac 250's, thats not a disco! Thats a Mobile Nightclub, im pretty sure they dont market themselves as a Disco and theyd be offended if they were described as such!

 

Does it look like i have a function one system... no im on peaveys, does it look like i have martin lighting... no im on acme! Im pretty sure my rig set up could be considered lower value than many of your yet im in there... they offer a range not just 1 type... infact last month was a mid point between us two... but surely we would want to see the higher end of the market, listen to their story and find out what they found to be sucessful.

 

Anyone who chosen to ignore such articles isnt appricated the value that reading what made others so sucessful he can s:cense: as much money as he likes on a sound system...

[Dukesy 0]

I guess the value of freedom of choice is not appreciated then! Oh well. Stalemate. Move on. smile icon

[Andy Dunn 0]

they are hardly representing the average DJ (their marketplace) by showing discos with funktion one and mac 250's, infact it could even be considered elitist

 

they should be featuring discos that do things differently, not just more expensively!

 

oh and sorry to start another debate, with a cube of trussing around the dancefloor and covered in mac 250's, thats not a disco! Thats a Mobile Nightclub, im pretty sure they dont market themselves as a Disco and theyd be offended if they were described as such!

 

Quite honestly I couldn't care less if people called it a disco or a mobile nightclub.

If somebody wants to buy and use that calibre and amount of kit and can still turn a profit does that not tell you they are doing something right?

 

Anyway where on earth do you draw the line between mobile disco and mobile nightclub,3 lights/4 lights 1K/2K more?

 

Get the point :wall: