McCardle 1 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 As far as your rig frontage goes, what is your current preference and why? Do you use a Starcloth / Dj Booth / Traditional Lightbox / LED Boxes / Stage Drapery / Material / Table / Nothing? Are you planning changing this frontage during the next 12 months?, if so what are you considering changing too? "The voice of the devil is heard in our land" 'War doesn't determine who is right, war determines who is left, and you wont win this war.' Link to post Share on other sites
vokf 0 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 I was using either black cloth (for 2' stand), or some board with black cloth stretched over it (4' stand). The board setup was fine, even in daylight it looked neat (no creases!) However, it was a pain to carry around. It was hinged down the middle, so only 3' wide. I got a starcloth a few days ago, and have come back from its first outing pleased with the purchase. I need time to get it DMXed up, as the comments about "christmas tree" where fairly close! lol Those that have "nothing" should invest in some black (or white?!) cloth. For the sake of <£10 it makes the whole set-up less cluttered. Link to post Share on other sites
exbutlinred82 0 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 I'm very fond of what I have at the front of my set up. IT'S ME. Equipment and Laptop to the right and a large Starcloth behind me. Seems to work!! Link to post Share on other sites
UKHero 0 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) I'm very fond of what I have at the front of my set up. IT'S ME. Equipment and Laptop to the right and a large Starcloth behind me. Seems to work!! I have only ever seen one DJ operate side saddle as it were, can you give me an explanation of how and why you do it and the benefits you feel it affords you and your audience? This is not to crit you just interested Nik Edited March 7, 2009 by UKHero Niks Roadshow Link to post Share on other sites
exbutlinred82 0 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Been dying for someone to ask me..... I have had some very positive comments doing it in this fashion. No barriers ...the audience feel that I am part of the party.I am very approachable must be a spin off from my Redcaot days.I have bags of confidence (you need it) having spent endless hours DJ'ing in this way. It works for me.Not being critical but when I look at SOME of your rigs I don't feel DJ ing has not moved on in presentation since the 70's.(Apart from Lasers Led Smoke etc).Let me remind you that is 39 years!! Not saying mine is the right way or the modern way but it is a different way and done well it makes me stand out!! May I remind you that despite Pubs shutting down wholesale round here...I have not got my A@@@ hanging out for bookings. Have to work from a kiosk tonight though.....AAARRRGGGHHHH. Link to post Share on other sites
UKHero 0 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Been dying for someone to ask me..... I have had some very positive comments doing it in this fashion. No barriers ...the audience feel that I am part of the party.I am very approachable must be a spin off from my Redcaot days.I have bags of confidence (you need it) having spent endless hours DJ'ing in this way. It works for me.Not being critical but when I look at SOME of your rigs I don't feel DJ ing has not moved on in presentation since the 70's.(Apart from Lasers Led Smoke etc).Let me remind you that is 39 years!! Not saying mine is the right way or the modern way but it is a different way and done well it makes me stand out!! May I remind you that despite Pubs shutting down wholesale round here...I have not got my A@@@ hanging out for bookings. Have to work from a kiosk tonight though.....AAARRRGGGHHHH. thanks for replying... Do you feel though thatit can invite the wrong kind of interest from the wrong kind of audience members.... Also how do you keep it looking neat? I dont think i have the nerve to try it to be honest... Have you ever had any negative remarks before you start from a venue or audience? I ask because I was a guest at a wedding last year and also put in my PA for the disco so i decided to set it up with the mixer facing the dance floor so i could mingle etc as I was a guest. The venue were very funny with me about it saying we have never had a dj do that before does it look ok will the B&G be ok with it. Nik Niks Roadshow Link to post Share on other sites
exbutlinred82 0 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 I dont think i have the nerve to try it to be honest... Have you ever had any negative remarks before you start from a venue or audience? Thats very honest of you Nik.Don't even think about it....Everyone knows its the way I do things. I ask because I was a guest at a wedding last year and also put in my PA for the disco so i decided to set it up with the mixer facing the dance floor so i could mingle etc as I was a guest. The venue were very funny with me about it saying we have never had a dj do that before does it look ok will the B&G be ok with it. Nik Would have told the Venue Representative that he should stick to serving the food and drinks.If the evening was a failure then he could come and complain to me about how I have set up.Unless your contract was with the venue ....what has it got to do with them anyway?? Maybe I have too much confidence!!Could be heading for a fall?Could be tonight??You are only ever one gig away from looking a total ameteur. Link to post Share on other sites
McCardle 1 Posted March 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 The venue were very funny with me about it saying we have never had a dj do that before does it look ok will the B&G be ok with it. Good Grief, that is the beginning of the end :scared: . What next?, venue managers coming over and telling us to change the music because they don't like the B&G's choices and that of their guests?. They'll be metering and charging us for the electricity we use next :ads: . "The voice of the devil is heard in our land" 'War doesn't determine who is right, war determines who is left, and you wont win this war.' Link to post Share on other sites
Adam_F 0 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 As far as your rig frontage goes, what is your current preference and why? Do you use a Starcloth / Dj Booth / Traditional Lightbox / LED Boxes / Stage Drapery / Material / Table / Nothing? Are you planning changing this frontage during the next 12 months?, if so what are you considering changing too? Been using the Ultimax front cloth for about the last 2 years. Now just moved across to the deckstand booth pro. Link to post Share on other sites
jameshuk 0 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 It generally depends on the venue and what the client has asked for as to the presentation... Although i tend to use a deckstand booth to hold all my kit and then choose from the tailored black wool serge cloth or LED wool serge cloth front for it (have used white cloth on occasions too). IF it's a big room i'll use the booth by itself with a truss behind me but for smaller rooms i either use the booth by itself with a Tbar and stand or i'll use the deckstand booth with it's overhead lighting add on... Link to post Share on other sites
deejaymitch 0 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I've been toying with the idea of a starcloth for a while now. Currently I just used some fabric. I was using plain black but now use a crushed velvet effect, it was really cheap too: www.cheapfabrics.co.uk/thestore/product_info.php/cPath/538_654/products_id/1410 As for the "side saddle" set-up. I used to do that quite a lot in one of my residencies. It really does make you more accessible and can make for a more enjoyable night. It also reduces the chances of spillage/damage to equipment. But it also makes you feel very exposed and vulnerable, I'm a DJ based in Northern Ireland with nearly 10 years' experience offering a range of services. Including club residencies, karaoke, pub quizzes, specialised wedding service, Master of Ceremonies, Compere, Night at the Races and much more. Link to post Share on other sites
vokf 0 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I like the idea of a side-saddle set-up. Not sure if I would want to do it -but can totally see why it could work really well. I have been trying to get out from behind the rig, and on most recent gigs, I've got out front chatted to a few guests and Carmen could kick in with the next song when I give the nod. Its easy to hide behind the gear - and with lights on/music up loud, its it bit difficult for guests to see who you are (other than a voice coming from somewhere dark! lol) New years eve was good for me, as I had a very minimal set-up, basically a 2' stand and 3 lights. Space was at a premium but it had to look neat and tidy. I had some nice black cloth that was attached to the gear (not much call for 2' deck booths..) My new starcloth had its first weekend of use, very happy with it so far. Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Ramon 0 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I've been toying with the idea of a starcloth for a while now. Currently I just used some fabric. I was using plain black but now use a crushed velvet effect, it was really cheap too: www.cheapfabrics.co.uk/thestore/product_info.php/cPath/538_654/products_id/1410 As for the "side saddle" set-up. I used to do that quite a lot in one of my residencies. It really does make you more accessible and can make for a more enjoyable night. It also reduces the chances of spillage/damage to equipment. But it also makes you feel very exposed and vulnerable, Crushed velvet is so very 70's so I always use it, a nice navy blue, its also is very durable, my current drape dates back to 1975! I kid you not. Kev Link to post Share on other sites
Dream Catchers 0 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I use a custom booth, very simular to the S&H. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
deejaymitch 0 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Crushed velvet is so very 70's so I always use it, a nice navy blue, its also is very durable, my current drape dates back to 1975! I kid you not. Kev Some things never go out of style. :thumbsup: I'm a DJ based in Northern Ireland with nearly 10 years' experience offering a range of services. Including club residencies, karaoke, pub quizzes, specialised wedding service, Master of Ceremonies, Compere, Night at the Races and much more. Link to post Share on other sites
exbutlinred82 0 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Vokf As a frequent purveyor of the side-saddle technique I am happy to give you advice BUT you don't need any. Look at your NYE...The answers there. You hiding again?? Link to post Share on other sites
UKHero 0 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I'm not sure its fair to call it hiding its more convention than hiding IMHO Nik Niks Roadshow Link to post Share on other sites
jukeboxdj 0 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 i have to sidesaddle in a few of the venues i use and to be honest i actually enjoy these nights but then it might be as exbutlinred82 said about being a redcoat a good confident entertainer can pull it off but if your are insecure about your role then i don't think it would be an enjoyable experience Link to post Share on other sites
exbutlinred82 0 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 jukeboxdj......has nailed it!!Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites
Kingy 0 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I like sidesaddle. Very open. Link to post Share on other sites
Dukesy 0 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Not a very good 'term' though is it! How about 'open plan'? Link to post Share on other sites
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