Which Amp?!

[s24dms 0]

Hi,

 

My 2nd topic now! My 1st one got a great response and i thank people for there replies and help they gave me, as i am new to this and looking to establish myself as a dj, i need advice on amps that i am looking to purchase.

 

Lets start!!

 

Ok my budget : - 2 amps of up to £1000-ish (yes i know thats alot for a beginner but i dont want to upgrade in the future)

 

Power: - aprox 1000rms a channel. thats a typical 2 channel amp.

 

For what: - Ok, i will be doing djing for parties (halls etc > not house parties really) / weddings , aprox 100 - 350 people. I have a good asian friend who will get me asain parties / weddings bookings too and if you have never been to one... THEY ARE BIG !! lol also i am looking for "thump" as in bass that shakes the place especailly to go for the younger generation rnb / drum bass lovers? :) .

 

Speakers : I havnt selected my speakers yet..... but i have been advised to start amp first.... I will possibly be going 2 subs (18" bins) and 2 tops (mid-tweeter combi) ........BUT i do want the amp to take on further 2 subs and 2 tops in future giving me a possible 4 subs on 1 amp and 4 tops off the other amp (this is possible right??)

 

Now i have looked around at few brands / specs?....

 

Ebay and htfr were my browsing sites and probably the place were i will purchase

 

I have looked at the >>>

Crown , QSC , Crest names... but dont know which can run 4 subs and 4 tops (future upgrades)

 

My post is basically to get suggestions off you guys! Models and directs links would be great.

 

Anything i have missed.... please comment so i can update with a reply!

 

Thank you yet agin!

 

[djgorey 0]

Right, I'll see if I can help.

 

First of all, whoever suggested that you start with amps and then buy speakers was wrong - you don't know what amps you need until you get the speakers.

 

Speakers are a personal choice and everybody on here can recommend a different make and model for different applications.

 

If I were you, I would go round some disco shops and have a listen to everything they have in the shop. Ignore whatever the shop tells you and listen to your ears. If you find something you like within your budget, then go for it. If possible, hire some stuff for a gig, or even borrow it and put it in a hall/room of the size you want to play in so you can see if it's loud enough.

 

It is almost impossible to say that you need x amount of power for x number of people because of the size of rooms, furnishings and type & efficiency of speakers all play their part.

 

Hope that helps - a basic answer to your question though is, if you are looking for 1kw per side at 8 ohms I would go a Matrix XP3000 (£800 new). If you want 1kw per side at 4 Ohms, I would go for Matrix XP2000 (£600-ish new)

[Andy Dunn 0]

Hi,

 

My 2nd topic now! My 1st one got a great response and i thank people for there replies and help they gave me, as i am new to this and looking to establish myself as a dj, i need advice on amps that i am looking to purchase.

 

Lets start!!

 

Ok my budget : - 2 amps of up to £1000-ish (yes i know thats alot for a beginner but i dont want to upgrade in the future)

 

Power: - aprox 1000rms a channel. thats a typical 2 channel amp.

 

For what: - Ok, i will be doing djing for parties (halls etc > not house parties really) / weddings , aprox 100 - 350 people. I have a good asian friend who will get me asain parties / weddings bookings too and if you have never been to one... THEY ARE BIG !! lol also i am looking for "thump" as in bass that shakes the place especailly to go for the younger generation rnb / drum bass lovers? :) .

 

O.K.,are you meaning you are going to spend £1000 on each amp or for both?

 

The names you are mentioning are the right ones in my opinion,alongside MC2,Camco,Void, AB international etc,etc.

You may want to look at the digital amps made by these people though as carrying a rack upstairs with a couple of these power amps and processing etc should carry a health warning!

 

Speakers : I havnt selected my speakers yet..... but i have been advised to start amp first.... I will possibly be going 2 subs (18" bins) and 2 tops (mid-tweeter combi) ........BUT i do want the amp to take on further 2 subs and 2 tops in future giving me a possible 4 subs on 1 amp and 4 tops off the other amp (this is possible right??)

 

Now i have looked around at few brands / specs?....

 

Ebay and htfr were my browsing sites and probably the place were i will purchase

 

I have looked at the >>>

Crown , QSC , Crest names... but dont know which can run 4 subs and 4 tops (future upgrades)

 

My post is basically to get suggestions off you guys! Models and directs links would be great.

 

Anything i have missed.... please comment so i can update with a reply!

 

Thank you yet agin!

 

[TonyB 0]

Agree that you need to get speakers first and then amps suitable to power the speakers.

 

My personal choice (after trying out numerous different makes) are:

 

Budget: T-Amp (AKA C-Mark)

Up Market: QSC

 

Also for Bass bins, a fantastic amp is the BKE MXF900 http://www.bkelec.com/Pro/Amplifiers/Mxf900.htm, it has a separate power supply for each channel (basically two amps separate amps, one for each channel) and outperforms amps that claim to be higher powered. The difference in the bottom end using one of these amps is amazing (connect direct to bins without passive crossover through an active crossover). Down side, it is a bit big (3U) and heavy (15KG without a flight case).

[Andy Dunn 0]

I have to say that having used most of the amps mentioned over time that the B.K. amps you mention are nowhere near in the same league as the others mentioned.

[TonyB 0]

I have to say that having used most of the amps mentioned over time that the B.K. amps you mention are nowhere near in the same league as the others mentioned.

 

Didn't say they were and I wouldn't use it for full range or tops. They have the typical harshness you get from Mosfets for the highs but for the bottom end where you need a good power flow, they work really well, better than other amps I've got/tried out. Bass sounds a lot tighter and defined.

[s24dms 0]

hello guys,

 

This is something i have seen>> anygood?

 

 

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR290229

 

 

Any speaker suggestions are welcome too!!!

 

 

cheerz

[dj will 0]

I would definetely echo the previous posts in that if you decide on a passive setup then decide on your speakers first. That is of course the advantage of buying active speakers like the ones you suggested - you don't have to buy a separate amp or worry about choosing a suitable amp. Presumably you've got a van if you are looking at such a setup and a big one if you want to get four subs and four tops! I would say though that even with 350 people you should be fine and have plenty of bass with a 2 subs 2 tops setup, providing they are decent. If you buy big heavy subs, bear in mind that you are going to have to carry them yourself (unless you have a roadie) potentially up several flights of stairs. The active subs that you had in your link weigh nearly 50 kg - that is with packaging but packaging doesn't weigh that much. With such a budget you should be able to get yourself a really decent PA in terms of sound quality as well, not just volume. You could also get an active mackie system - 2 subs 2 tops, with a similiar amount of power.

 

http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=3377...ighlight=mackie

 

What you really need to do is listen to a PA before you buy it, especially when spending serious money. You do not want to buy something that you do not like the sound of. When you do decide what you want then shop around - do not just confine your activity to a couple of websites. You can easily do a google products search, by which you can find pretty much the cheapest supplier, although it does not always have every single supplier on there it does have most of them

[superstardeejay 0]

This is something i have seen>> anygood?

 

Yes! More than ample for most DJ gigs. Fully limited and almost indestructible, (cue loads of posts from people who've blown them up) and reliable. Nice versatile all-round sound for all styles of music and vocal.

 

 

 

 

[djgorey 0]

If I had that sort of money to spend, I would be looking at

 

http://www.voidaudio.com/product_detail.asp?id=46

 

or

 

http://www.voidaudio.com/product_detail.asp?id=66

 

Although, I would see if I could get it without the amp supplied and get a pair of Matrix instead.

[Andy Dunn 0]

If I had that sort of money to spend, I would be looking at

 

http://www.voidaudio.com/product_detail.asp?id=46

 

or

 

http://www.voidaudio.com/product_detail.asp?id=66

 

Although, I would see if I could get it without the amp supplied and get a pair of Matrix instead.

 

 

Oh dear,you haven't been brainwashed over on the other side have you!

[djgorey 0]

Oh dear,you haven't been brainwashed over on the other side have you!

 

Didn't say I would buy it (I haven't heard it so don't know how it sounds) but I would be looking at it and listening, of course, along with Martin Audio and Turbosound. For £2,500 though he could have a Reflekta rig from SSE and you know that's how I would spend that sum! (then I'd bitch about how I can't lift it or fit it in the car!)

Edited March 23, 2009 by djgorey