How To Hang Approx 20 Metres Of Starcoth

[jakemuk 0]

Have been asked to supply and install 20 metres of starcloths, Now getting the cloths is not a problem and already sorted, What i want to know is how you hang it,

 

Trussing yes but pain and expensive, I beleive from what ive been told when large events take place they use scaffolding ? Is this correct,

 

I have also been told to use winch stands and have a custom metal piping made so it can be winched up and down rather then scaffolding

[Dukesy 0]

Have been asked to supply and install 20 metres of starcloths, Now getting the cloths is not a problem and already sorted, What i want to know is how you hang it,

 

Trussing yes but pain and expensive, I beleive from what ive been told when large events take place they use scaffolding ? Is this correct,

 

I have also been told to use winch stands and have a custom metal piping made so it can be winched up and down rather then scaffolding

Surely you did the MR before accepting the request?!

I'm surprised that your starcloth supplier has not recommended services?

Companies who specialise in this field such as lighting event services should be able to advise. If you are concerned about contacting a local company, contact one in another county, although bear in mind that specialists can travel all over the country!

 

 

 

 

[jakemuk 0]

Surely you did the MR before accepting the request?!

I'm surprised that your starcloth supplier has not recommended services?

Companies who specialise in this field such as lighting event services should be able to advise. If you are concerned about contacting a local company, contact one in another county, although bear in mind that specialists can travel all over the country!

 

 

I have'nt asked the supplier, The request can be completed so i am not to concerned as if needs be a scaffolding frame can be installed and have added this into the quote, I was just wondering how if any pros on here did it how they acheived it.

 

I appreciate a specialist can travel all over country, But i only use trusted specialists i know, As previous experience they try and poach repeat work directly with clients

[McCardle 1]

If you were my Roadie, i'd be sending you out to B&Q for some Skyhooks

 

What provision has the manufacturer made for hanging the cloth?, are there any eyelets sewn into the material to allow some kind of ties to be used?

 

20M of cloth is going to be fairly heavy and well beyond more conventional methods of cloth hanging, you'll probably need some kind of wire frame or at least a bar at the top of the cloth, from which the cloth is actually suspended.

 

This amount of star cloth is going to cost mega bucks, so i'm sure that they (the supplier) would (should) be at least happy to assist with advice about how to go about hanging it, especially as it might mean them selling you addtiional kit in order to do it. If they won't / are unwilling to then i'd be finding new suppliers in the future

Edited October 5, 2009 by McCardle

[Dukesy 0]

But are you not poaching work from a specialist who is probaly more qualified and knows how to hang it?! smile icon

[jakemuk 0]

But are you not poaching work from a specialist who is probaly more qualified and knows how to hang it?! smile icon

 

Not poaching work at all, The client one of the biggest banks on the high street, Work on the basis of i want this do it, And hence i deal with all aspects of there requests, But the problem i have found with this, If i subcontract to a specialist they then try and get the foot the door in with the clients, And well that does'nt happen when i sub a job to you. Everyone works different but once bitten twice shy and all that.

 

I will speak to the supplier and seek there advise, I was thinking scaffolding frame to hold the weight

[Dukesy 0]

Not poaching work at all, The client one of the biggest banks on the high street, Work on the basis of i want this do it, And hence i deal with all aspects of there requests, But the problem i have found with this, If i subcontract to a specialist they then try and get the foot the door in with the clients, And well that does'nt happen when i sub a job to you. Everyone works different but once bitten twice shy and all that.

 

I will speak to the supplier and seek there advise, I was thinking scaffolding frame to hold the weight

You won't need scaffolding for your hefty investment. Have a look for free standing drape support systems with footplates. These are used for professional presentations and backdrops by specialist event lighting companies, usually white or black, they are straight forward to assemble and do not require a scaffold cert/licence to erect.

 

Thes systems allow use for free standing room dividers, tunnels, etc.

 

Why not contact this Leicestershire based company.

[McCardle 1]

No offence intended, but one thing I would do before I bought a £60k Bentley, would be learn how to drive. If you get my drift.

 

Certainly if you are working in a corporate environment, then you may be asked by their resident HSE team to do a risk assessment, and suspending something as heavy as a 20M starcloth as a backdrop is going to form a big part of that area of responsibility. So the best advice I can give, is even if you are 99% certain on how you can hang it safely, still seek assistance for that 1% of doubt

 

Not a lecture, just well meaning advice from someone who has been in the corporate circuit (and still has the scars).

Edited October 5, 2009 by McCardle

[jakemuk 0]

No offence intended, but one thing I would do before I bought a £60k Bentley, would be learn how to drive. If you get my drift.

 

Certainly if you are working in a corporate environment, then you may be asked by their resident HSE team to do a risk assessment, and suspending something as heavy as a 20M starcloth as a backdrop is going to form a big part of that area of responsibility. So the best advice I can give, is even if you are 99% certain on how you can hang it safely, still seek assistance for that 1% of doubt

 

Not a lecture, just well meaning advice from someone who has been in the corporate circuit (and still has the scars).

 

 

I agree with what you are saying, And although it may seem that i am cutting corners, I am trying to get things done all in house, a full risk assement would be done, And i am going to confirm with supplier re scaffolding, And that is being installed by a proffsional team of fitters

[Raymilkybarkid 0]

Normally starcloths are in 6 x 3 Mtr sections to make them easy to handle but still they are weighty.

The cloths are normally hung on hook fixings to trussing or beam.

I trust that you have gone for the fibre optic route.

 

I wouldn't fancy hanging a 20mtr cloth in one section, I would shudder to think what the weight would be and you would need a forklift to hang it.

 

I worked in the production industry for many years and would leave this to the professional riggers to hang and or supply.

 

[UKHero 0]

Normally starcloths are in 6 x 3 Mtr sections to make them easy to handle but still they are weighty.

The cloths are normally hung on hook fixings to trussing or beam.

I trust that you have gone for the fibre optic route.

 

I wouldn't fancy hanging a 20mtr cloth in one section, I would shudder to think what the weight would be and you would need a forklift to hang it.

 

I worked in the production industry for many years and would leave this to the professional riggers to hang and or supply.

 

 

I agree with him, This is specialist kit when your talking this size. The pro riggers make it look simple but it aint. If your good at your job and put a good show on they wont be interested in another service provider any way. How ever if you try to do it yourself and screw up they will go seek another service provider.

 

I like Ray work on the corporate curcuit and there are many specialities that come together to make the event some times four five six even more companies co work together on one event this is the norm and is understood that the main company that has the client is in charge and no pro company will directly poach from the other. The corporate industry is quite insestuous and word gets around very quick of a rouge company poaching work.

 

Nik