danger mouse 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) anyone have any experience of the sound of these for use in replacement/upgrades click they seem good specs. Edited October 25, 2009 by superstardeejay Link to post Share on other sites
superstardeejay 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 They arent bad, especially if you have a budget to keep to. But they won't suit all speaker cabinets, what do you want to fit them into? . Link to post Share on other sites
danger mouse 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 plastic cabs similar to sound lab or class d ones which had same powered drivers. Link to post Share on other sites
superstardeejay 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 plastic cabs similar to sound lab or class d ones which had same powered drivers. Can you be more specific? . Link to post Share on other sites
danger mouse 0 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) pair of these click. the older models though. jac 15. Although i beleive they are the same spec just different cab. Edited October 27, 2009 by superstardeejay Link to post Share on other sites
safehands 0 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 be carefull on there power ratings,i have a friend who recones speakers,there rms is is more like a peak rating,ie they may say 500w rms,when its more probably around the 350 w mark. Link to post Share on other sites
danger mouse 0 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 on eminence drivers? Link to post Share on other sites
norty303 0 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 be carefull on there power ratings,i have a friend who recones speakers,there rms is is more like a peak rating,ie they may say 500w rms,when its more probably around the 350 w mark. I'd say their rms is exactly what they say it is. I'd be interested to know what lead him to that conclusion? Scientific destruction testing with test tones? Certainly I know of a number of people who use them in short bandpass horns and use more than 500w and have no problems whatsoever Just make sure you put them in a cab that suits them. Use BassBoxPro, WinISD or Eminence speaker designer (stripped down BBPro) to do a rudimentary model to at least check your port tuning suits them. DIY plans and pro audio related technical discussions www.speakerplans.com/forum Link to post Share on other sites
danger mouse 0 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) im only changing the worn tired drivers for better quality ones (Kapa pro) of the same rms which will hopefully sound and perform better with better punch and clarity . Edited October 27, 2009 by danger mouse Link to post Share on other sites
Bouncy Dancefloor 0 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 if you have kappas in your boxes already, then yeah id say swap like for like, if you dont have kappas, then id advise buying the same drivers to replace Link to post Share on other sites
superstardeejay 0 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Another thing to watch for is that many of these chinese moulded cabs use drivers with particularly narrow rims, meaning the eminence (which have wide cast rims) dont always 'drop in' the moulding. They may also sound awful! They probably won't, but you need to be aware of the possibility! . Link to post Share on other sites
danger mouse 0 Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 i changed a pair of 15" drivers before from a pair of idex speakers to eminence (standard drivers . deltas i think) and they sounded better, (more punch /clearer). any one upgraded to better ie more expensive but same powered drivers and had a bad experience ? Link to post Share on other sites
norty303 0 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I've just looked at the price of the Kappa Pro 15a and they look to be around the £90 mark each. Might be worth looking at other manufacturers such as Fane or Celestion for alternatives. Celestion are giving good bang for buck at the moment but they still need to suit the boxes. DIY plans and pro audio related technical discussions www.speakerplans.com/forum Link to post Share on other sites
danger mouse 0 Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 back to that voodoo , :bloodyhell: dont understand much of the technical details but i was thinking a 500rms speaker costing about £55 from class d to replace or 500 rms speaker costing nearly double should be better if you go on the get what you pay for way of thinking . Link to post Share on other sites
norty303 0 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) Eminence are ok if you're on a budget, even some of their more expensive drivers aren't bad. However it's usually the case that once you get up near the £100 mark and above there are better alternatives out there. That said, if an Eminence driver suits your cabs best then it'll be the best choice. Also, don't forget to look at the Thiele Small parameters of the driver and more importantly the sensitivity. You may find a driver with a bit less power handling but 3db better sensitivity which will be louder on your amp than the current one. Edited October 28, 2009 by norty303 DIY plans and pro audio related technical discussions www.speakerplans.com/forum Link to post Share on other sites
danger mouse 0 Posted October 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 thats one of the things i noticed, the eminence were 101 which seemed really good Link to post Share on other sites
norty303 0 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 At what frequency was that 101db/1w/1m measured? Manufacturers have a habit of picking the highest number even if it doesn't fall within the normal operating range of the speaker. However from looking at the graphs it appears that is within the usual range of the speaker (120hz-1.5khz) Worth bearing in mind if comparing against others DIY plans and pro audio related technical discussions www.speakerplans.com/forum Link to post Share on other sites
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