Human Smoke Machines Back In The Day

[stardust 0]

I started my Mobile Disco just after the public smoking ban..

 

Thinking out aloud ... i guess some gigs and venues back in the day, you didn't actually need smoke machines due to the hundreds of fags being smoked ?

[bigMCben 0]

That is, unfortunately, the only downside of the ban, however not having your hair and clothes stinking of smoke, not having a yellowy gunk appearing on your air vents and filters and not having a sore throat are the definite positives.

[danger mouse 0]

still did a disco other day in a pub, 11.30 they locked the doors and all lit up , :ads: , i filmed them though so any jip and its "hey mr council how much do i get for this little lot" :saint:

[Robbie Harrison 0]

Has anyone found that their equipment has been lasting longer since the smoking ban came into force? I've had to clean my amp fans less....

 

 

[Norfolk DJ 0]

 

1000 times better now.

 

My T&C allow me to finish and receive full payment is anyone smokes. Don't forget a place of work can include a marquee on private land.

 

[eazy 0]

i still think stinking of smoke when i got home better than smelling BO and farts much more pleasent :yuck:

[deejaymitch 0]

I don't smoke but I never minded people smoking around me and I'm certain that this ban has not saved any lives but has cost a lot of people their livelihoods and has killed off a lot of nightlife.

[UKHero 0]

Well I am glad of the smoking ban and IMHO if people cant last a few hours with out a FAG! then it shows how weak willed they are and how addictive the killing drug is....

 

Nik

[Thats entertainment 0]

I don't smoke but I never minded people smoking around me and I'm certain that this ban has not saved any lives but has cost a lot of people their livelihoods and has killed off a lot of nightlife.

 

Agreed :yes:

[gadget 0]

Well I am glad of the smoking ban and IMHO if people cant last a few hours with out a FAG! then it shows how weak willed they are and how addictive the killing drug is....

 

Nik

 

 

Most can go outside if they're desperate for a fag anyway... rain or shine!

[Norfolk DJ 0]

I don't smoke but I never minded people smoking around me and I'm certain that this ban has not saved any lives but has cost a lot of people their livelihoods and has killed off a lot of nightlife.

 

 

I'm a bit lost here

 

If killing yourself and other people is ok then I am lost. The ban is the best thing which has ever happened to public health.

[UKHero 0]

I don't smoke but I never minded people smoking around me and I'm certain that this ban has not saved any lives but has cost a lot of people their livelihoods and has killed off a lot of nightlife.

 

My Uncle died at 49 from smoking my Granddad died at 65 from smoking his wife died at 80 from a smoking related disease but never smoked in her life... Go figure as Dan says.

 

Nik

[danger mouse 0]

only weird thing is watching people leave in droves and thinking :damn: only for them to come back in again :hug: forget they going out for a cigarello all the time.

[Raymilkybarkid 0]

I gave up smoking 2 years ago from 40 a day.

Things are so much better now with the ban in place. No More smelly clothes, equipment etc......

 

Back in the day when I worked in the clubs abroad nearly all of the DJ's had a Cigarette on the go while working but it may have had something to do with fags being 40p a pack..

 

Best thing I ever did was to give up the weed...

 

Now here is a little food for thought this is true;

 

I would never smoke if I was in company having a meal as most of my friends don't smoke. We were out having a meal (Table for 16) just having our starter when this guy lit up a cigar and started chuffing on it blowing the smoke in our direction. My friend asked the guy if he could blow the smoke in another direction as it was putting him off his meal, the guy said no he couldn't and wouldn't because he could do as he pleased. So my friend stood on his chair and shouted for quiet in the restaurant and made a speech about how rude it was to smoke in a restaurant.....He went on to say that smoking was smelly and made everyone around them smell too.....He then said that beer was his vice and how would the guy like it if I were to wee all over his clothes......With this the guy went very red and apologized to all of us and brought us 4 bottles of wine and got a round of applause from the other diners..

 

 

[Dukesy 0]

[milhouse 0]

I don't smoke but I never minded people smoking around me and I'm certain that this ban has not saved any lives but has cost a lot of people their livelihoods and has killed off a lot of nightlife.

 

You're saying nobody has ever died thanks to passive smoking in venues? Roy Castle....?

 

Mitch, read this

 

http://www.heartstats.org/datapage.asp?id=7680

 

 

Well I am glad of the smoking ban and IMHO if people cant last a few hours with out a FAG! then it shows how weak willed they are and how addictive the killing drug is....

 

Nik

 

Exactly, and inconsiderate. Most venues have outside areas and terraces now for them to disappear to.

 

I'm a bit lost here

 

If killing yourself and other people is ok then I am lost. The ban is the best thing which has ever happened to public health.

 

I remember working in a bar pre-ban and my eyes stinging so much it was as though I'd been sprayed with police CS. It was due to the amount of smoke in the air.

Edited November 19, 2009 by JonWhittaker

[Dream Catchers 0]

I'm certain that this ban has not saved any lives

 

Unfortunately smoking isn't like a bullet, with a bullet you know that being hit by one there is a high chance of being killed instantly. With smoking it is a long slow death.

Cigarettes kill you over a period of many years, so it will take many years to see the benefits of the smoking ban.

I do think the results will be less than we want though as the smoking ban doesn't really stop people smoking, it just moves the smokers outside, the net effect of this is only likely to be a reduction in the number of passive smoking illnesses and deaths.

 

Jim

Edited November 19, 2009 by Dream Catchers

[deejaymitch 0]

You're saying nobody has ever died thanks to passive smoking in venues? Roy Castle....?

 

Erm, don't think I did actually John.

 

What I am saying is that the smoking ban is not stopping people smoking, it is just stopping them from going out leading to people losing jobs and not being able to put food on the table for their families. I'd rather work in a full venue where people are smoking than an empty one where they aren't allowed to.

[UKHero 0]

Erm, don't think I did actually John.

 

What I am saying is that the smoking ban is not stopping people smoking, it is just stopping them from going out leading to people losing jobs and not being able to put food on the table for their families. I'd rather work in a full venue where people are smoking than an empty one where they aren't allowed to.

 

And in say 20 years time when your riddled with cancer would you still feel the same?

 

Also how is it stopping them going out?

 

Nik

[milhouse 0]

And in say 20 years time when your riddled with cancer would you still feel the same?

 

Also how is it stopping them going out?

 

Nik

 

Some research did say that the smoking ban has lead to x amount of pubs closing down, but I wonder whether this is an excuse for a natural decline in the industry anyway.

 

Much of the pub and club market is in fact doing better now than it was pre-ban, but I have noticed more places accomodating for smokers by advertising roof teraces or having roped off areas outside the venue. A smoker was interviewed on TV and said the "outside smoking club" is a good way of sparking up a conversation with someone and making friends! So it has its benefits

 

I think the ban has encouraged more non-smokers to stay in venues longer, in some cases.

 

 

[Norfolk DJ 0]

I'd rather work in a full venue where people are smoking than an empty one where they aren't allowed to.

 

You would very welcome to it, because I wouldn't. Even on private land people are not allowed to smoke if someone is working there. EG DJ in a marquee on private land for a wedding reception.

[Dukesy 0]

Yep. You can't even smoke in your own home these days when it becomes the 'workplace'! I say put that fag out!

Emails and telephone records can be accessed by faceless individuals, rubbish can be scrutinised, CCTV can be set-up outside your bedroom window, Agadoo can cost you thousands if you are caught playing publicly the dub version without 'a licence', and so on, and so on.

 

Hmmm? I have no doubt we'll see more 'fundamental freedoms' treated with disdain and eroded, along with silly laws passed, and us (the 'peasants') paying for it in the months / years ahead, especially when personal/private records are lost or sold on! :yes:

 

Don't you just love the 21st Century? Wonder how many more repressive measures will be introduced in the next 10 years?

 

Well, I think we've known for a long time that our 'elected' powers don't appear to care unless something is in it for them, and while 2009 may be remembered as the year we were all proved right, its pretty pointless protesting about 'rights and freedom'. You might as well throw stones at lightning, so long as you have conducted a risk assessment first and registered to be on the database!

 

At the end of the day, if you choose not to work in an environment which may affect your health, simply don't work there, and if you're worried there might be one or two idiots on the road who might crash into you when you're driving on your way to a gig, simply don't drive!

 

Reference the DJ that was lectured on the telephone by the MCPS (allegedly) - you either adapt, and get on with it, or face the consequences. Wise words, eh?! LOL!

[Carmen 0]

I have never smoked, never tried it never will. Before the smoking ban I rarely ventured into pubs, now Jason drags me into pubs quite frequenty. For me it's SOOO much better and I'm much more likely to go into a pub type place now. I don't think I'd have enjoyed following him around the disco venues quite so much before the smoking ban.

 

I've only encountered one place where the smell of BO was really bad and that was Salsa! in Charing Cross road, euuuuuggh. But on a Saturday night in that kind of venue it's kind of expected. It almost had me wishing there was smoke, but at least the smell of BO didn't transfer onto my clothes and hair for me to smell next day!

[deejaymitch 0]

And in say 20 years time when your riddled with cancer would you still feel the same?

 

Also how is it stopping them going out?

 

Nik

 

(i) Yes

 

(ii) Lots of people have stopped going out directly or indirectly due to the smoking ban. Directly because they and their friends can sit in and drink and smoke to their hearts' delight without having to go and stand in the cold and wet. The early novelty of 'smirting' (smoking+flirting) when people met outside having a quick puff wore off quickly when our very short summer ended. Indirectly, the already reduced crowds lead to worse atmospheres, made even worse by the fact that people are in and out of the venue all night, leaving the company they are in, making for a worse atmosphere and a less enjoyable evening.

[Norfolk DJ 0]

(i) Yes

 

(ii) Lots of people have stopped going out directly or indirectly due to the smoking ban. Directly because they and their friends can sit in and drink and smoke to their hearts' delight without having to go and stand in the cold and wet. The early novelty of 'smirting' (smoking+flirting) when people met outside having a quick puff wore off quickly when our very short summer ended. Indirectly, the already reduced crowds lead to worse atmospheres, made even worse by the fact that people are in and out of the venue all night, leaving the company they are in, making for a worse atmosphere and a less enjoyable evening.

 

Agree to disagree on this one. :wall: