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Well you know what they say Dan...

 

The Client Giveth and the Mechanic Taketh away! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/014.gif

 

Perhaps you shouldn't have got rid of the (T)rusty Escort

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LOL nice pics guys just out of interest what camera did you use my photos at gigs always turn out really crap

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QUOTE (scotty @ Jul 26 2004, 12:30 AM)
LOL nice pics guys just out of interest what camera did you use my photos at gigs always turn out really crap

Equipment Make SONY

Camera Model CYBERSHOT

Creation Software Aobe Photoshop 7.0

Focal Length 6 mm

Flash

F-Number F/3.8

Exposure Time 1/50 Sec

ISO Speed 100

Date 24/07/2004 00:09

 

 

 

Dunno the Cybershot model number though?

 

That enough ? http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/smile.gif

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It's just a bog standard Sony Cybershot DSCP-30. Only 1.3 mega pixel but it does the job.

 

Like most digital cameras it needs the flash to take a low light picture which ruins the lightshow effect somewhat, but there isn't any way around that. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/533.gif

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QUOTE (Chris_Pointon @ Jul 25 2004, 11:58 PM)
Perhaps you shouldn't have got rid of the (T)rusty Escort

And guess what I've borrowed from the person I sold it to??!! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE (Chris_Pointon @ Jul 26 2004, 01:44 AM)
It's just a bog standard Sony Cybershot DSCP-30. Only 1.3 mega pixel but it does the job.

Like most digital cameras it needs the flash to take a low light picture which ruins the lightshow effect somewhat, but there isn't any way around that.  http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/533.gif

I have the same Camera , I got it as a free offer from Sony when I bought a Sony computer about a year ago.

 

I also use a Fuji with a zoom lens, but find that it is the Sony that gets used the most due to it being so nice and small, just pop it into a pocket when going out http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/smile.gif

 

It is not just a Flash that gives a poor picture of a lightshow , if a smoke machine is in use it totaly ruins any chance of getting any good pictures due to Flash bounce back from the smoke http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/sad.gif

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Hey folks - remember what you were doing around this time last year???

 

Why not travel back in time and see what was....... from the beginning.

 

http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=309

 

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BTW - Paula used to have a very nice Avatar that was 'Saint' like!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE (discodirect @ Jul 25 2004, 10:47 PM)


The Espace car broke down Sunday morning.  It's ready to be looked at on Monday (by a good mechanic friend) but looks like needing a new lump under the bonnet - worse case.



Totally F http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/censored.gif D transport wise for this forthcoming weeks gigs....(Thursday, Friday, Saturday) so have decided to look into 3 possibilities:

1) Plunge a load of money into getting the Espace 100% - no exact figure determined
2) Buy another used car (say 4-5 years old)  - a gamble
3) Buy a new van thru 2 yr lease / contract hire - a bigger gamble

I thought you were going to get them fans fixed Dan!

If I were you I would get the Espace a priest not a mechanic, http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/laugh.gif looking at how low it was to the ground the other week, I think it could do with more than a just heart transplant. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/oops.gif

If only there were good cheap hire firms that were open on Sundays, so you could hire a van for just one night instead of the whole weekend. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/533.gif

I hope you get it sorted soon without having to sell all your gear to pay for it.

 

If you are really stuck for this weekend & David hasn’t got anything on we could always pop over with the trailer van to help you out, just let me know.

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dan - just hire a van for the weekend...

WE LOVE KAREN, AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE HER BACK !!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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sierre leone (sp)

 

Isnt Sierre Leone in Africa ?

I will try anything,once!

 

The Cornish will arise again !

Manager of the Andy Harris Fan Club.

Keep pasties Cornish

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Friday night had a wedding at my hotel residency - great night with people dancing from the word go....

 

The usual idiots asking for brand new stuff coz they didnt like the older stuff I was playing, even though everyone was dancing... Bless them..

 

Saturday was completely different.. REALLY hard work... Lots of people... Literally around 150ish guests... The venue has their own sound system with limiter which you have to plug into.... And its SOOO quiet that you can't hear the music or me at the end of the marquee where the bar is...

 

Result - really REALLY hard to get any sort of atmosphere.... Had them all dancing for the last hour but only coz they were drunk at that point....

 

Had DJ Trev from the forum come along as well - unfortunately not the best gig to visit but nice to see him...

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Roller coaster weekend for me... Tuesday, got an email from MOS/Data records A&R to come & talk, went Friday daytime, got a load of Promos to review, some great stuff there for the next few months..

 

Friday evening, wedding for 200 in Bury, Sussex. Great party, guests all up for a good time.

 

Saturday, nightclub in Margate absolutely packed. Brilliant party night, played cheese, R&B, hip-hop, house. Went very well indeed. Played some of the new DATA promos to good reactions. Got home 4am buzzing

 

Sunday, wedding in Bookham, Surrey. Another great night - all cheese, all dancing from 9pm to midnight. Got £50 tip yipee!

 

Today, back at my work desk, sore throat, bags under my eyes...

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Awkward! thats the word to sum up last nights wedding reception.

 

The Bride and Groom got married abroad in June (6 weeks ago) so no wedding atmosphere left by last night...not even the groom dressed up, just the bride in her gown.

 

The evening was soooo nice and warm and balmy and humid that no one, and I mean no one, ventured into the function room until 9:30, when the buffet was served, until 10:00.

 

That left me 2 hours to entertain them. We got loads of requests, but too late to include them all, even with the bossy bride (egged on by 4 of her mates) telling me to end "this one" and "this one" and "this one too" prematurely, even after I pointed out that those tracks had been chosen by her guests... The brides mates were of the "R'n'b only" culture.

 

Bring on the rain...keeps

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Had the normal old problem on Sat night.

 

Wedding reception, 7/12 no buffet for 100 people. Nice venue, and generally nice crowd

 

On my powered bins I have notices asking for no drinks due to mains etc. one guy dressed in scruffy ( and I mean scruffy) jeans and a tee shirt put his drink on them. After the third removal and gypsies curse he squared up to me. I told him to move away, he just said " Leave me alone" but in a very aggressive way as if threatening me. I turned to walk away but he grabbed my arm. Having been trained in counter ensurgency techniques, riot control and many many self defence techniques during a previous career, needless to say i immediatley put his arm into a lock that he just would never be able to get out of and "Walked" him to the enterance, only about 20 feet away.

 

the groom thanked me and said they had been dreading him turning up, so no problem there. However, Why should I have to do this? Cant people just live with a little respect for others? I am now as a result of this, totally P*ssed off with the whole djayin scene, and I feel like giving it up after 24 years. I have had enough, I'm sick of it!

 

With over £25k sitting invested in the gear in my unit I am really thinking of finding something else to replace my job!

 

Rant over. Hope I feel different soon! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/ranting.gif

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Kingy, If you read my post, you would know that I had an almost similar situation at my own gig. Fortunately, the guy was too pished to do any real damage had it kicked off, but this is one situation where I am glad that there are two of us at the gig!.

 

Unfortunately, I don't have any prior training in self defence and I wouldn't want to get to the stage where we are all trading punches, the best we could aim for is the wrestle the guy to the floor, and subdue him until the hotel security / police arrived. Assuming of course that his "mates" didn't join in.

 

I must admit, that I have only ever had to physically defend myself at a gig, once in 16 years, although I've lost count of the number of empty threats i've had from hot heads. But even so, once in 16 years isn't a bad statistic.

 

If you compare the level of threats D.J's have to endure from idiots, compared to other occupations - Nurses, Taxi Drivers, Paramedics etc, then we are probably very fortunate. I think suffering the odd fool, and taking the odd threat is an occupational hazard these days.

 

Think about it, it may be another 24 years before the situation happens again http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/smile.gif , I certainly wouldn't let the one situation, however disturbing, put you off something that you enjoy and that makes money!.

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I understand your feelings kingy stuff like that does make you feel is it worth it sometimes. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/smile.gif

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Friday was a 13th B`day party, 7pm to 10pm. All girls, 11 to 16 yrs. Karaoke till 9:15 then cheesey disco to finish off. wasn`t allowed smoke/haze but I drenched `em with snow/foam and they loved it. It was a really nice gig. No drunks, no-one smoking and a nice early finish http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/smile.gif

 

Saturday... the missus had a night out with her sisters and I had a night in with some cans of Guinness:)

 

Sunday - 50th b`day at Colomendy. Loggerheads, North Wales. 7:30 to 11:30 but I played till about 12:15 cos the pay was decent and the people were great.

The only downside was that the paymaster was adamant that after the Karaoke, there was to be only Motown ALL NIGHT. By 10:30 the hall was beginning to empty and I had to get pretty firm with them to let me play some other type of music to please everyone else. He said OK and I stuck a Wham! medley on and the night took off. Left them shouting for more and singing "Lovin` You". Am back there next Friday - same set of people, different function. (a bit of a grueller actually, but that`s another story).

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Hey Kingy - please don't give it up - yet!!!

 

 

In my personal opinion, the guy made it personal - nothing to do with the DJ side of things. He lacked mutual respect and was ignorant. He 'picked' on the wrong guy on the night.

 

You may want to (for peace of mind) add an amendment to your Terms and Conditions of hire regarding the responsibilities of the hirer and their clients.

So don't delay - 'Get behind the wheel again - straight away!' http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/smile.gif

 

 

Newbee Info

There is always going to be the potential for the occasional idiot at any function. As much as we try to cover every aspect and eventuality that could arise - something else can always be overlooked.

 

So we try to do the right thing - and one avenue for this is the Terms and Conditions of hire.

 

"Blah Blah Disco Entertainment provide a professional service and and expect to be treated accordingly:

 

The Venue Management / hirer will provide adequate supervision of its guests / customers or staff at the venue.

 

The Venue Management / hirer will be solely responsible for any injury / claim or incident arising from booking including any loss of / damage to entertainer’s equipment, transport vehicles or personnel belongings, caused by patrons / customers / guests."

 

 

 

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All good advice.

 

Put it this way, if you were sat having a quiet drink in a pub and got 'challenged' by a similar individual, would it put you off ever going into a pub again?.

 

If you were walking down the street and got approached in a similar threatening manner would you become a recluse and never set foot out of doors again?.

 

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Of course not!.

 

By giving in to this pillock and throwing in the towel was exactly the response that he hoped to provoke.

 

In the words of an ancient chinese proverb....

 

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Don't let the bastards grind you down

 

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You could try discuising (sp) your kit and speakers as tables, then no one will put their drinks on them (lol)

..playing all the hits for you...

....whether you may be....

 

Why can't I see what i going on???

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http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/beer.gif Thanks Guys ( and Gals ), It's not just this isolated episode. I am not bothered about the physical side of this matter, despite how distasteful and un-acceptable i find it, he was never going to be a serious threat. Its the general way that discos in general are treated these days which is really starting to Pee me off.

 

I wonder exactly when the industry started to go " a bit Pete Tong".

 

When I first started out (1979), with my small disco ( a Fal ranger and a pair of 2x12s) the DJ was treated with respect. When you arrived at a wedding, people were helpful, asking how much room you needed, do you need a hand etc etc. Mind you those were the days when people did not spend more than your fee on bloody baloons etc. When you finished you felt as though you had achieved something, you had made their day special. I used to look forward to the bookings!

 

Now, the disco is the last thing ( but the first potential complaint) on their minds. You are often cramped into a corner, verbally abused by p*ssed up punters and ( especially on warm light nights) may even struggle with the audience due to lack of interest. It's sadly all changed. When did this happen???

 

It happened when every Tom, Dick & Harry ( sorry if we have a Tom, Dick or Harry!) decided that they would be an entertainer. The advent of cheaper gear arriving and becoming within the reach of all commers meant that you no longer had to have that "real desire" to become an entertainer and save for ages to get the required gear. You can go out now, (and there will be some reading this that it applies to,) and purchase gear with minimal value, a couple of hundred quids worth, and be "DJaying" by next weekend. So, with this in mind, the Guys ( lots of them on here I'm sure) that have been doing the job for years get under cut by the new guys and end up having sometimes to "Justify" their charges. Thats the bigining of it. Then the wannabees continue in another form.

 

"I can sing so I can DJ!"

 

How many Karaoke presenters make good DJs? And vice versa. In the Eighties when Karaoke first arrived over here, I bought the Pioneer system and all the 12" lazer discs. I made a good living doing this, no flashing lights, no disco at the end, just doing Karaoke. Then along came the cheaper gear, the "Karaoke Presenters" who bastardised the industry by creating the "Disco/Karaoke" combination and the prices dropped virtually over night. It went from £200+ per night in 1987 to silly little prices very quickly. This was down to more people doing it, the market was saturated.

 

I am rapidly thinking that the industry has changed to such a degree, shows being run by folks who are claiming benefits, tatty gear, poor presentation etc etc that i no longer feel comfortable doing "Mobile Discos". Shame really, this has been a big chunk of my working life, with very few complaints from any quarter, but I cant see a sucessful conclusion being made. The old adage "The best way to deal with change is to be part of it..." probably fits, but I dont think its for me.

 

After all that, I will probably carry on. BUT, I have never felt so down about the industry as I do at the moment. I am genuinely upset by it. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/1106.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/ranting.gif

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