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I have a few laptops http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif and this morning I am buying another hard drive as I need to copy 29.3GB of music.

Four questions...

 

1. I presume a 30GB hard drive won't be big enough, and will have to buy a 40GB plus

 

2. I have a P3 500Mhz, a P3 800Mhz, a P4 2200Mhz and a P4 2800Mhz, I presume (again) that the faster the machine the quicker it will be.

 

3. Which is the easiest way to transfer data, cut and paste, or is there another way

 

4. How long do you reckon it will take to transfer 30GB on the above machines

.....but what do I know ?

 

 

 

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plug the new hard drive into the pc as a slave and copy the music across......

 

fastest pc will be the one with the most ram

 

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fastest pc will be the one with the most ram

WRONG http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/nono.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/fear.gif

 

Firstly RAM does help the speed... but has nearly sod all to do with copying data.

 

Secondly: What type of drives are we talking about?

 

A drive with a cache will be faster than one without. i.e. my 250Gb 8m Cache drive can copy 96Gb of music in 40 seconds on a AMD2000 with 256mb memory. But a drive without cache can take and hour on the same pc!!!!!

 

As for your HDD size requirement... If you have 29.x GB of data and you want speed, reliability and space for more music! then get an 80Gb minimum.

 

A quick example: A 40Gb drive with 500Mb free will be slower than an 80Gb with 40.5Gb free because of the way drives work.... Imagine walking into a large library with every book ever written on the shelfs.... then imagine the same building, but with 10 books on the shelf.... Which one could you find the book you want in? (providing the book is in both librarys! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

 

So my recomendation would be for your situation a new 80Gb drive. in the fastest pc (because the IDE/SATA controler will also be slightly faster) and ensure the drive has a cache. This will give you space for future music, and also speed.

 

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If you have loads of music on you hard drive (obviosly back it up!) run a defrag on the drive! it is amazing what a difference in speed of data read this makes !!!

 

My 250Gb drive only has 96Gb of music on it, but the work the drive was doing in OtsDJ was generating a lot of heat (and i use maxtor server drives which run cool!) but by defragging it the drive temp is now much cooler and quieter!! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

 

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Forgot to answer Q3: http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Cut and paste wont copy the data, it will move it !

copy and paste will work, drag and drop will work... it doesn't really matter, its personnal preference !

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Thanks guys, I have now brought (another) laptop http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif it has a 60GB internal harddrive, so will copy my 30GB of music over tomorrow morning, ready to tomorrow nights gig.

BTW last time I copied it it took about 18 hours to copy and paste http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/fear.gif It was on a P3 800Mhz though, so hopefully my new P4 2800Mhz should be about 4 times quicker.

.....but what do I know ?

 

 

 

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Firstly RAM does help the speed... but has nearly sod all to do with copying data.

 

Sorry mad but your wrong here..... RAM have everything to do with copying data

 

so in affect as all his old pcs were not that slow , the one with the most free system RAM would copy his data more quickly than the ones with less.....

 

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ok on simple terms each file is copyed from first disc into RAM and the writen to second disc , its called a Cache.......

 

if you dont have enough ram then the system uses the hard disc to cache other system programs and resources, and we all know windows is not the best at keeping its self with in the limited RAM on your system...

 

if you are dealing with large file sizes (.mp3 files) then its only logical that with the limmited performance of the hard disc's that the system with the most RAM will have the edge ....

 

DMA

 

DMA stands for Direct Memory Access and is the term used when a peripheral device transfers data directly to or from memory, without the use of the CPU. Today DMA is the only feasible way to transfer data from the hard drive to memory as most of todays operating systems use multitasking and can better use the CPU for other tasks. The first DMA modes were not adopted by the popular OS's of the time, but when Ultra DMA mode entered the scene it quickly became commonplace. The main difference between Ultra DMA and the older singleword and multiword transfers was that Ultra DMA mode clocks the data twice per clock cycle thereby doubling the bandwidth. The most favored today is Ultra DMA mode 2, aka UltraDMA/33 and faster UDMA 100/133

 

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fancy not knowing that Ads http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/stupid.gif

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Thanks for the advice guy ??!! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/wacko.gif

 

Have now brought another laptop with an internal 60GB hard drive and 256RAM so hopefully it will copy over in less than 4 hours, otherwise I have no backup at all for the 8500 songs http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/sad.gif

.....but what do I know ?

 

 

 

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Actually you're all overlooking one thing here which will be far more relevant to the copy speed...

 

They're laptops, which means that the transfer is very probably going to be done over a network connection. Even with a high speed link (or Firewire/USB2) the disk access speed will far out strip the capabilities of the link so its not really relevant.

 

 

And lets not compare system RAM with disk cache, its an apples and oranges thing - also the larger cache processors and disks don't 'always' give better performance.

 

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The most favored today is Ultra DMA mode 2, aka UltraDMA/33 and faster UDMA 100/133

 

Thats clearly an old cut/paste as its only optical drives really that keep to those speeds now - any mobo and disk combination worth its salt in the last 2 or 3 years has hit UDMA-5

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Here is the computer, it has 256MB RAM, and 256mb Cache.

 

Hit me baby, one more time !

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PC WORLD AHHH.

 

Marky Marc is spot on. Memory will improve the speed of a pc..

 

Why did you buy a new laptop are you mad? You could have just got an external hd for one of the many pc's you have and put the tunes on there?

 

Sorry don't mean to sound patronising but an external hd would have been the answer??

 

 

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I had two laptops and two external hard drives, but plugged an incorrect PSU into one of my hard drive caddies and mashed the drive, so needed a new drive anyway, and a couple of my machines are getting ready to retire anyway, so killed two birds with one stone by buying a large hard drive already in a new machine, my backup laptop will be running with an external 120GB hard drive, and I have just brought another 120GB hard drive as back up for the back up, which will stay at home, so we can listen to music at home.

Also when I retire from DJing in a few years I will keep this new laptop, and it will still be quite good, as opposed to old and a P3.

 

BTW I didn't buy it from PC World, although if you are a business customer they have some good deals, I buy all my computers from the same place, which means more discount each time, brought three machines from them this week since Tuesday http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

.....but what do I know ?

 

 

 

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Right laptop arrived, and was put to work straight away, as last time I copied my hard drive it took about 24 hours, plugged in my USB2 into the laptop and transferred 30GB in 30 minutes !!

.....but what do I know ?

 

 

 

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