Corabar Steve 0 Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 OOPS! missed a big chunk of this thread before that last reply. Sorry for stating the obvious http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/oops.gif Steve... Mad bad & dangerous to know Better to study for one hour with the wise, than to drink wine with the foolish. The opinions of Corabar Steve are not necessarily those of Corabar Ltd or any of it's subsidiary companies <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Digital discos 0 Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 QUOTE dustry standard Sony MDRV700 Since when have sony been industry standard headphones! Surely there HD 25s that have been around for donkey's and worn by most club djs around the land are industry standard QUOTE yeah but to mix well youu really need 1 ear in trhe head phones and 1 ear listening to the music i dont really beleave you can mix very well just using your headphones even with a split cue Split Cue is the same as mixing with one in in the room and one in ear in phones....Except without a monitor you will get a delay in the method you describe. Oh and btw Other Clubs Dj's and myself both mix in cans without split cue........ On the odd mobile job where mixing is required I will take a monitor out and I usually take one to an under 18 night I do.. For the majority of the time I have my headphones on when I'm exposed to high volumes....I mean say I spend a minute rehearsing a mix..then just keep them worn.. That's how I have seen all other club dj's do........ http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/533.gif Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 QUOTE Since when have sony been industry standard headphones! Surely there HD 25s that have been around for donkey's and worn by most club djs around the land are industry standard Surely you mean HD25, not the HD25s http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif Link to post Share on other sites
Dukesy 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Yes, mixing in headphones is spot on for me too! I think a good tip to practice with headphones at any gig is to 'EQ' your head! It's not so bad at residency / club venues but the various different size and shape venues are essential, especially in 'time delay' when the sounds are bouncing here and there and everywhere! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/smile.gif Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_Kray 0 Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 QUOTE (Digital discos @ Apr 22 2005, 10:35 PM) Oh and btw Other Clubs Dj's and myself both mix in cans without split cue........ I really did not want this to go on and on, of course everybody likes to mix in there own way but mixing with a monitor is not the same as mixing with a split cue. as the monitor is a exact copy of what the crowd is hearing i.e it has both songs volumes coming out of it unlike head phones with split cue where you have 1 ear for 1 song and the other ear for the other. i do understand that some mixers have a split cue fader but still this is not what the punters are hearing and in all the time i have been clubbing/djing i have only ever seen a dj with there headphones half on i.e 1 ear to the cue song and the other to the monitor. but hey whatever works best for you http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/533.gif Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Marky Marc 0 Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 in a club i like a monitor and mix with one head phone normaly. but on a mobile i dont allways have a monitor speaker with me so have had to learn the mixing in the head phones way of doing things.... <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Digital discos 0 Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Well basically.. I match both tunes in my headphones....Might use the pfl crossfader just to see how it sounds. Then when it's all matched I drop the tune over............If I'm using a monitor I will check the mix live just to see it's okay...If it's not frantically pitch bend and hope for the best... If there is no monitor I will start the mix in my headphones, make sure the beats are synced then just listening to the 'room mix'. It's only in the last month I have really improved my mixing, as I have had some help from a local club dj......... I suppose his way might have rubbed off on me http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/533.gif Link to post Share on other sites
C.S 0 Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 I only mix in the headphones as an absolute emergency, otherwise its one phone on, one off I will try anything,once! The Cornish will arise again ! Manager of the Andy Harris Fan Club. Keep pasties Cornish Link to post Share on other sites
Digital discos 0 Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 So when you matching two tunes......I presume with the tempo/pitch facility..Your matching them with one in ear in the room and on ear in headphones? Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_Kray 0 Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 QUOTE (Digital discos @ Apr 25 2005, 07:46 AM) So when you matching two tunes......I presume with the tempo/pitch facility..Your matching them with one in ear in the room and on ear in headphones? Yes thats right when i mobile like many other i dont bother with a monitor then i do mix with just head phones but to be honsest i dont really need to mix much when doing a wedding and now i mainly do clubs anyway http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites
ToXiC 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 I know harsh mids and tops causes ringing ears. Bass rarelly causes ringing. The ears are most sensitive to 1khz-2khz frequencies so I cut those down on the EQ to get rid of some of the harshness. So I have very loud bass, clear and clean midrange and treble but not as loud as the bass, and since I did it like that.Never had ringing ears after the night was over. Also avoid piezo tweeters like the plague,cos they sound very harsh and thin and crap. As for headphones I got the Sennheiser HD25 and sound very good but still can make my ears ring if I mix loudly with them.So I invested in a portable headphone amp with EQ and turned down the high frequencies.Now can mix with headphones loud and no more ringing ears. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/cool.gif Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE As for headphones I got the Sennheiser HD25 and sound very good but still can make my ears ring if I mix loudly with them.So I invested in a portable headphone amp with EQ and turned down the high frequencies.Now can mix with headphones loud and no more ringing ears. cool.gif Aaah, now we're getting to the bottom of it. Thanks toxic for bringing this up. As the eq on each channel is set for output to the audience, the answer is a separate eq for the headphones. You run a A&H Xone:32 right? What headphone EQ device do you use? Link to post Share on other sites
ToXiC 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Yep thats correct I use the Allen&Heath Xone32. I use the Red Sounds micro headphone amp http://www.decks.co.uk/products/headphones...ounds/micro_amp Link to post Share on other sites
jackcu 0 Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 To resurrect this thread - what other ear protection has anyone tried? I'm looking at the Shure E series in-ear monitor type thingies. I've tried standard musicians' earplugs but then I have to jack up the headphone volume to silly levels. The idea of earphones with protection sounds like a good idea - but are they any good? Cheers, Jack. sorry for asking this on 2 separate threads but I had missed this one when I posted on the other (if that makes any sense) ;) Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted September 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 BTW, I have given up with the plugs of the start of this thread, they muffle out too much of the spectrum. Link to post Share on other sites
jackcu 0 Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 QUOTE (brianmole @ Sep 6 2005, 02:07 PM) BTW, I have given up with the plugs of the start of this thread, they muffle out too much of the spectrum. That's what I figured from what you wrote - any views on other methods of hearing protection? Thanks, Jack. Link to post Share on other sites
minicooper172 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Hmmm... Why don't you just turn the headphones down?! That's all that ear plugs will do! Link to post Share on other sites
jackcu 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 QUOTE (minicooper172 @ Sep 7 2005, 12:59 PM) Hmmm... Why don't you just turn the headphones down?! That's all that ear plugs will do! Not quite - what I'm looking for is earphones that reduce the level of the volume from the PA. Ear plugs will reduce the volume, but as you say they will also reduce the volume from the headphones, making it difficult to hear what you are cueing up. Earplugs with built in noise protection will reduce the noise from the PA but will allow you to cue up the next track in peace and quiet. In fact, they should allow you to do it at a lower headphone level. That's the theory, at least ;) Jack. Link to post Share on other sites
Digital discos 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 So are the earphones essential a set of super duper headphones? But in the small in ear type shape? Can you actually use them to monitor/cue with? I take it yes. Link to post Share on other sites
RobbieD 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Jackcu, I have tried earphones / in ear monitors, as I mentioned on the first page of this thread here: http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/index.php?showto...indpost&p=76348 They have their advantages and disadvantages, but in the end I decided that they weren't ideal for mobile disco use. Rob Link to post Share on other sites
reemicks disco 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Since working along side Mick doing discos, i have recently noticed that i'm losing my hearing in my right ear. Will have to invest in some Ear protection. Maree Link to post Share on other sites
jackcu 0 Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Thanks Robb, I read your post and found it interesting. I think I'll take a shot at these. 20db of attenuation would really make a difference and I wouldn't bother taking them out to take requests, etc. as I'll hear better with them in. As far as listening to the room goes, I usually just set this up at the start and once again when the place is full - I can always take them out for a few mins to do this. The main thing will be remembering to unplug them when walking away from the console LOL Cheers, Jack. Link to post Share on other sites
jackcu 0 Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Well I eventually bought a pair of Etymotic Research ER-6i in-ear earphones and I have to say I'm impressed. http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er6i.aspx I used them at a gig for the first time last night and I really liked them. The attenuation is stated as 34 - 36db and it certainly felt that way. I swapped the flanged tips for the foam ones and the sensation is exactly like wearing those little scrunch up plugs you get in factories. They block out a huge amount of the sound from the PA but the audio from the cue channel on the mixer is nice and clear. I could also hear people when they asked for requests - even more so as they were shouting against the PA. However, it is difficult to hear people speaking at normal volume if you keep them in once the music has stopped. The biggest problem was remembering to unplug them from the mixer when moving away from it. They were designed for iPods and the like and have been slagged off for having poor bass response if not fitted correctly. I can't say I've found the bass lacking but then having worked in factories in the past maybe I just know how to fit them LOL. Anyway, I bought them to protect my ears rather than for listening to for hours so the absolute sound quality isn't the biggest factor. Having said that, they sound miles better than any similar earphones I've had in the past. I would thoroughly recommend them to anyone worried about their hearing. Cheers, Jack. Link to post Share on other sites
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