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#1 RobbieD

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 11:37 AM

I think we need to make more use of this section to warn each other of problem venues.

Something that we all hate is sound limiters, so I though it would be useful to list these as we find them.

I normally try to avoid venues with these, but in the past couple of years I have come across the following:

Burnham Village Hall, near Slough:

A very nice large hall with a stage. The limiter operates an orange ball on the far wall opposite the stage. I found that the level was set very high, and even running at quite high levels for a wedding, I hardly managed to get the orange ball to light at all. Therefore this limiter was no problem.

Floyd's Bar, Charlton Athletic FC, South East London:
Decorated in a 1980s sports bar style, with a dedicated raised dancefloor surrounded by railings. The problem is that the management make you set up in the corner near the main entrance facing tables of seated guests and around 20 feet from the dancefloor. This is because these are the sockets controlled by the limiter. The bargraph display of the limiter is also behind you, making it hard to keep an eye on. It is set at such a level the people on the dancefloor over the other side find it hard to hear the music above the background noise of people talking. I had a night of continuous complains about not being able to hear the music on the dancefloor, and even tripped the limiter once! One to avoid.

The Ivy House pub, Peckham, South East London:
Hidden in the back streets of Peckham, the back rooms are surprisingly large, and have a 1990s light rig installed (ie pin spots, scanners and some old twisters) as well as a couple of large (18 + horn?) speakers flown either side of the stage. This has the bar graph type limiter on the wall opposite the stage. When I asked the manager, he told me it was only for live bands, and I found that I could run at a high level (18th birthday) before getting the top lights to light.

OK, lets hear of other venues with sound limiters.

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 12:30 PM

Maxilla Hall, Maxilla Walk. W10
Worst place on earth, the caretaker won't let you in early to set up so your setting up as the party goers arrive and the place stinks like a toilet......some sort of darts hall.........and as for the sound limiter

(still to traumatised to talk about it)

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 01:20 PM

The Chestnut Tree, Lea Bridge Rd, Leyton E10

Upstairs function room quite nice, but access better via fire escape, which leads directly to car park, than through bars.

Tripped sound limiter once, which also tripped fuse box and cut off most of pub supply. oops.gif

Looked at bottom corner of stage and noticed switch marked "limiter" so turned it off. whistling.gif

Problem solved. (Nobody noticed I had done it!)

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 03:03 PM

Burnham Beeches Hotel
Slough

they have a very sensitive one so I'm worried about my next gig there, if anyone has any ideas for soundproofing putty or similar, please let me know

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 03:42 PM

gaffa tape over the mic slows the buggers down...

or a can of that expanding foam stuff you get to fill gaps in brick work..... whistling.gif

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 04:01 PM

Don't seem to get many of them up here in Glasgow - thank goodness.
Must be a lot of residents complaining down South??? Plus a lot of
the venues up here were built around 1800 so thick walls
and high ceilings - some great old dance halls.

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 07:14 PM

Bancourt Hotel, Torquay
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Posted 24 March 2005 - 04:11 PM

Sound limiters here are usally connected to a mains plug which cuts out if tripped,

Solution, plug in behind the bar!!!!!

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 10:29 PM

OR, if you know its there, politely turn down the gig!

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 10:36 PM

Or, take a smaller set up and blame it on the limiter that you can only push 200w
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#11 RobbieD

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Posted 27 March 2005 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE (Kingy @ Mar 24 2005, 10:28 PM)
OR, if you know its there, politely turn down the gig!

That's my approach too Kingy - much less hassle than running long extension leads, and sneakily trying to plug in elsewhere (that's if the venue management will let you) or taping up (and risk damaging) the mic.

That's why I started this thread, so that we are better informed about these venues, and can each decide how to handle them in advance, rather than finding out once a booking has been accepted.

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Posted 28 March 2005 - 09:07 PM

I always set it so the orange lights are showing and then I know I can't go higher than that.

The two annoying things about the ones I have done is either, I try and trip them at the end of the night only to find they aren't working.

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someone in the crowd trips it in the middle of the night!


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Posted 29 March 2005 - 08:31 AM

I reported the sound limiter in Burnham Beeches in Slough last week and after performing last week, I can tell you that the limiter wasn;t so bad after all. It doesn't actually swtich anything off. It just informs reception that they need to go and have a chat with the DJ and remind them.

The limiter has a big graphic on it and I find that the volume was very accpetable - nobody wants to hear very loud music and the limiter lets you know what is allowed. All in all it was a great gig and venue - so much so (the venue asked for us back). I just sent a "Thank you" email to the venue and managers about how great they were in helping the DJ and not being too restrictive in areas (music after 12/confetti cannon/dance floor layout etc) whereas many oithger venues I've been to don't respect the DJ like they do.

I give credit where it is due and the Burnham Beeches hotel certainly gets my thumbs up.
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Posted 29 March 2005 - 11:59 AM

The white horse hotel in hertingfordbury (or something like that) near hertford. Orange light on the ceiling and the censor is conveniently placed almost above your head 533.gif

I turned the volume up to try and see what it's limits were and although the light stayed on constantly it never tripped the power.

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Posted 30 March 2005 - 09:00 AM

Noise limiters certainly seem to be a popular topic here on DJU.

Here are the other threads that I could find - plenty of worthwhile advice on each one really - everything from "plug into the kitchens power sockets using a long extension lead", right through to sticking a balloon, or chewing gum over the microphone...

Try here

and here,

oh, and here...

..and last but not least.

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