Which system

[YourBigEvent 0]

OK, I have 2 x 1500w amps (750w per channel), I have a crossover installed and I want to buy some new speakers.

I can go to 750w max per speaker, so 500w + (RMS) should do.

 

What would you go for

 

Peavey are getting lighter so that is a choice

TurboSound are getting dearer so thats not an option (unless a good deal)

Don't want Skytec/Soundlab/KAM/Gemini etc

 

With Speakon connections and a budget of say £1200

 

 

Please discuss/recommend

 

 

 

[DiscoStudio 0]

There are a few options available, I would personally recommend either of the following:

 

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Cerwin Vega Pro Stax 123 500W RMS @ £779 / Pair

 

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Citronic CX-5008 500w RMS 15" Full Range @ £649 / Pair - Don't be fooled by the name Citronic on these cabinets, they are really punchy and sound excellent!

Edited April 16, 2005 by DiscoStudio

[Digital discos 0]

the EV GLADIATOR SETUP would be BY FAR one of the best options.

 

For the tops and bins the whole lot will come to about 1200 with leads.

 

Subs here Click

 

Tops Here

 

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To be honest ev are a fantastic make....Up there with tops makes like turbosound, martin audio etc.

[cj_65 0]

I have EV Eliminator subs and tops - they're great but

heavy and came in at a little over the 1,500 from a UK

supplier.

 

Key thing for me was the resale value which always seems

to hold up with the EV speakers unlike a lot of other brands.

 

All the best, Chris.

[brianmole 0]

MacGregor are an excellent manufacturer I would reccomend, they use Eminence drivers. Another excellent choice would be Deltec - they also use Eminence, and their backup service is second to none, a lot of SEDA member swear by Deltec.

 

But since you are a very rich man with a strong back, I suggest Funktion-one http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif

[John Kidd 0]

I have used Deltec for Years and can say if you want a Speaker for every Event then Deltec wont let you down.

 

Strong, Great Range, Great Sound, Great Service.

[norty303 0]

Ever thought about building/having them built?

 

A pair of good quality drivers will be around £350 and materials will be around another £200. Pay around £200 labour charges and you could have a good looking and very good sounding pair of boxes for £750.

 

Subs are not a black art to design. Bass reflex boxes are simple to do and there are a number of great horn and bandpass designs out there for free. You can also vary dimensions so that they fit your storage/transport needs and play the frequencies you need them to.

 

The real skill comes with getting mids and tops to work right which is why Turbo, Funktion 1, etc have such a strong market

[John Kidd 0]

You could buy high quality ready built 600w speakers for this money

[norty303 0]

Yep, and you could do the home builds a lot cheaper too, £175 per driver really will get you some great kit but you could go for a lot less and still get a superb driver.

 

What subs were you thinking of for £700 odd quid?

[John Kidd 0]

The Deltec BX16f or not, fits the bill. Small, and great, right price.

[norty303 0]

£1200 for a pair of subs will get you some serious kit. I'd be looking at stuff loaded with PD, P-Audio, Void, some of the better JBL range (but they're expensive and are outperformed by cheaper drivers), RCF, Beyma, B+C or similar quality. Look at the more exotic loadings too such as bandpass and horn. You'll get a much better frequency response and higher SPL than from a reflex box.

 

Will your amp drive 4ohms bridged? If so you'll be best off running the pair off the bridged amp than stereo. You don't say if your amp gives the 750w @ 4ohms or 8ohms. If it's 8ohms you should be ok in stereo.

Edited April 20, 2005 by norty303

[YourBigEvent 0]

£1200 is for the whole set up not just bins

[norty303 0]

Sorry, my bad.

 

I was going to say you could do a lot worse than these actually...

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...7316692475&rd=1

 

 

However if you're looking for a complete system you could do a whole lot worse than a Void Basys system. Comes complete with amp (3 channels - 2 stereo tops and a sub out) 2 tops and 2 15" bins.

 

http://www.voidaudio.com/BASYS.asp

 

They're an English company based in Poole and currently make some of the most drool worthy touring cabs and have just released this small mobile setup at Plasa.

 

I can put you in touch with someone who's running a few sets of them for rental if you'd like some info and real world feedback. The setup is a little more than £1200 but you could sell off your un-needed amps to make up the difference.

 

Get in touch if you'd like more info.

 

This stuff is another world away from your average Peavey or JBL consumer range.

Edited April 20, 2005 by norty303

[YourBigEvent 0]

How have I missed that company, and close to me too, thier kit looks great.

 

[norty303 0]

ProAudioParts are retailers i believe due to their links with Void and they too are based in Poole iirc

 

http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/

 

 

The install stuff and transparent co-axial monitors are something else. The 21" bandpass sub was really, really low at Plasa http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif

Edited April 20, 2005 by norty303

[YourBigEvent 0]

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[norty303 0]

Just had this response from a mate on another forum who has a lot of the BASYS stuff so i thought i'd paste it here for your information

 

 

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I can tell you from the Void Basys systems that I have some of the specs. The amp is flight cased and has a built in active crossover and also has limiters and other protection built in. To connect the speakers together you get 2 x 4 core 8 meter spaekon cables that carry both bass and mid/top to the speakers. You then have 2 x 2 core cables that loop from the bins to the 2 tops. You also get the poles for sitting the tops above the bins, so no need for speaker stands. The whole system is very loud for it's size and sounds really nice at all volume levels. Below are more detailed specs:- Basys amp:- Amplifier Output: 2 x 290 w rms into 8 ohms - Channel 1 & 2 1 x 460 w rms into 8 ohms - Sub Out 2 x 400 w rms into 4 ohms - Channel 1 & 2 1 x 650 w rms into 4 ohms - Sub Out Frequency response:- 20-20KHz (+0,-0.5 dB) THD + N:- 0.05 % 1 KHz @ 1 w Crosstalk:- > 90 dB Damping factor:- Channel 1 & 2 >800 Sub Out >600 Slew Rate:- 40V/us Input sens:- 1.1 Vrms Weight:- 24.0 Kg Flight Case:- Yes Basys B12 spaekers:- Power Handling: 300 watt RMS Maximum Output: 125 dB continuous Frequency response: 55 Hz - 20 KHz -3dB Efficiency: 99 dB 1w/1m Impedance: 8 ohms Connectors: 2 x 4 pole speakon Driver configuration: 1 x 12" 1 x 1" Basys B15 spaekers:- Power Handling: 600 watt RMS Maximum Output: 129 dB continuous Frequency response: 34 Hz - 150 Hz -3dB Efficiency: 101 dB 1w/1m Impedance: 8 ohms Connectors: 2 x 4 pole speakon Driver configuration: 1 x 15" If you give them a call down at Void they could tell you more. There a very friendly bunch and are always happy to help.