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Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me with any information on a Red Sound BPM Counter or any other BPM Counter come to that.

I'm not into mixing but what I'm interested in one for is so that I can see the BPM so that when I'm doing the Ceroc Dance night the dancers can dance to the beat hopefully!

I've read that it is plugged into the headphone socket and then your head phones are plugged into it - is that OK.

My CD player is a Numark CDN22 mark 3

Looking forward to some good info

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Anne

AJ's Mobile Disco Ryedale North Yorkshire

 

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yes they do one that you can plug into your headphone socket and it will tell you the apporximate BPM of the track your cueing up but like any BPM counter its not 100% acurate so dont rely upon it to beat mix....

 

But for as little as £10 you can pick up a behringer BPM counter.. infact they used to give them away with mixers when you bought one....

 

this type of counter just has a button on top which you tap in time with the music and it displays the BPM...

 

or you can act like a nurse and count BPM while looking at your watch... just like counting your heart rate

 

 

 

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The "Red Sound Mini BPM" will be back this summer with a face lift!

 

Red Sound made a deal with Vestax for disctribution rights and Vestax let them down, so the reason we can't currently get hold of it is down to Vestax....

 

I will be announcing the re-release in July/August on the forums so keep your eyes and ears open....

 

There is another "similar" kind of thing called a "Grey BPM" and it's OK, so if you don't wanna wait then maybe that's a good alternative?

 

Hope that helps... :-)

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If I were looking for a bpm counter even nowadays, I wouldnt bother with one that listens to the music directly.

 

"Listening" bpm counters work by monitoring a set frequency band eg: 90hz-120hz for short peaks (beats) in that band...normally the bass notes.

 

However if other sounds are present in that frequency band, such as deep vocals or bassy instruments, they too are often counted by the Bpm counter, causing too high a bpm to be counted.

 

Similarly, if a track has a beat which is outside of the counter frequency response, beats are missed, causing a lower bpm to be displayed.

 

An electronic Tap counter, as Marky mark suggested would be my choice. These devices often on need 5 or 6 taps of your finger in time to a beat to settle on a true bpm.

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Actually, I own a Red Sounds Cycloops (for sale actually if anyones interested) and the BPM detection engine on it is very accurate and not easily confused. Strange chillout beats, DrumnBass, etc don't give it too much trouble and it has to be accurate as it drives the sample tempo. I've been able to have the sampler looping for ages with no slippage of sync.

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My PC software, Atomix, calculates the BPM and is accurate on most dance stuff - anything with a strong "boom boom boom". However, it is sometimes wrong and on most other genres it is wildly inaccurate. For that reason I always check with a manual counter - quick and easy to use.

 

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Jack.

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Thanks folks for your help my next question is where can I get one of these manual counters of about £10 to quote Marky Marc.

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Thanks Marky Marc I'v just bought one http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/thanks.gif Anne

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I have used most of the bpm counters going (and owned a few) through my 10 years, including the makes Red, Behringer and Numark. The only one I would even touch is the Numark Beatkeeper II. They don't make it anymore but you can still pick them up on ebay. It is excellent and is spot on I would say 95% of the time with the bpm's as long as you give it 10-20 seconds to find it. It also will tell you which track is running to fast/slow, which track you need to pitch abit etc.

 

For my money only get a numark if you can find one!! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif

 

 

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