chrismk 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 As the topic suggests, Im looking at buting a new pair and Im interested in the Pioneer HDJ1000 or the Sennheiser HD25 Headphones, both apparently are blooming good, but which one or is there better for the money All sniggers welcome http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites
jeffwall 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 My choice........Sony MDR V300 £25 from currys or comet excellent DJ phones and great sound quality, never let me down yet Link to post Share on other sites
norty303 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 HD25, no others come close in terms of durability (and sound IMO) I've been through a number of different pairs over the years and the HD25's just kick the butt of everything else. I work with a lot of major dance DJ's and acts from around the world and i'd say that over 75% of them use the HD25. They are pricey but you won't spemnd the money again unless you lose them. They have a full range of spares available too so you can replace that lead you snagged on a flightcase catch whan packing up in a hurry. I've heard some not so great stories about the Pioneers. the only other headphones that seem to be popular are the Sony 700's (don't bother with the 500's - i talk from experience) but they did suffer from brittle plastic around the swivel joints. I think there's a Mk2 out now with this fixed (is that a major manufacturer admitting bad product design?). I'd suggest auditioning some and seeing what you like. Remember that using headphones for monitoring is far different from listening in a store. Try and use them in the working environment. DIY plans and pro audio related technical discussions www.speakerplans.com/forum Link to post Share on other sites
chrismk 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Thanks for that, I have been pondering on the Sennheiser HD25 for a while now and I think it is going to be them, no question about it. The Pioneers seem to have to many moving bits, that equals wear and broken parts Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 I was going to get another pair of Sennys, but I've got a pair of the new Denon's instead. If you use frequencies in your mixing (eg: EQ adjusting during mix) then you'll really appreciate the extra freq responce in the Denon's. Have a listen before you buy anything. (they look tasty too!) Link to post Share on other sites
chrismk 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Which Denons would these be Gary, or do Denon only make one model Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 (edited) [ QUOTE (chrismk @ Oct 24 2005, 12:05 AM)Which Denons would these be Gary, or do Denon only make one model http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/oops.gif Sorry...The Denon DN-HP1000's Info here !!! Edited October 23, 2005 by Gary Link to post Share on other sites
chrismk 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 errr, thanks, you qouted me twice, I must be important.. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/rolleyes.gif Seeing that you have alot to do with Denon, wheres the special prices, or am I pushing my luck, I need a incentive to see me on my way to Denon.... http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/drama2.gif Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 QUOTE (chrismk @ Oct 24 2005, 12:25 AM) errr, thanks, you qouted me twice, I must be important.. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/rolleyes.gif Seeing that you have alot to do with Denon, wheres the special prices, or am I pushing my luck, I need a incentive to see me on my way to Denon.... http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/drama2.gif You'll get all the incentive you need, just by listening to a pair. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites
transeurope 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 My personal choice in this is the Beyer Dynamic DT100s. They are used by broadcasters around the world and they have very good sound insulation and a very flat response. Not only are they great for mixing they are also a really useful reference for working out what the hell is going wrong with your sound, is it the record PFL, the master, or are things going pear-shaped because of the venue and the dynamics of people shifting around. Second vote goes to the HD25. Pios and Sonys (even the new model) are not the most durable. Out of deference to the different (very different) but equally valid DJ culture of Asia I will not call them a design fault, just not suited to the way we DJ in the West. I have no idea what the new Denons are like, so I will suspend any comment on that. Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 The Sennheiser HD25 phones are by far the best you can get, but at over £100, they are quite expensive. I don't particularly like the Pioneer headphones, for under £100 you can get Sony MDRV700 which a lot of DJs use (inc me). Link to post Share on other sites
FDDJ 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 I have used Sennheiser HP25's (the slightly cheaper younger brother) and they were excellent, I can also vouch for the Beyer Dynamic DT100s having used them in a studio they are indeed the dog's dangly bits. However having had a listen to the new Denon's @ PLASA I can fully endorse Gary's recommendation. They sound as good as the Beyer Dynamic DT100s in my opinion. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/headphone.gif "It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." - Charles Darwin <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
chrismk 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 So its either the Sennheiser HD25 or the Denons I should be looking at, seeing what you all have said about the Denons they seem to be tops, is this correct, I still need to be swayed over to Denons seeing that Im about to plunge and buy Denon mixer and keep the VMX as a stand by unit..... http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/whistling.gif Link to post Share on other sites
FDDJ 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Well the Denon is a new product so you may want to give them a try before you buy them. The Sennheiser's have been around a lot longer and have built up a loyal following. If you want something tried and tested they may be a safer bet. "It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." - Charles Darwin <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Another big plus for the Sennheiser HD25's is that you can get spares for them, so when you break them, you will not have lost your investment. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/thumbup.gif Link to post Share on other sites
norty303 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 My point about using them in a working environment is that you're not generally monitoring like you would in a studio or live band situation. the HD25's have a great sound (IMO) and whilst the Denons may have a better sound, what is good about the Senns is that you can hear everything you NEED to hear when putting a mix together. All the right bits cut through whereas other headphones that extol flat response tend to just get lost when you've got 1000w of monitors screaming at you. DIY plans and pro audio related technical discussions www.speakerplans.com/forum Link to post Share on other sites
Kingy 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 DT100s everytime. In my opinion, nothing else is as road rugged. And every bit of the DTs is available as a spare. I have two pairs, one on the disco and one on the pa. Had the disco pair for about 10 years now! Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 QUOTE DT100s Found a pair at a car boot fair once, bloke wanted £1. We haggled, I got them for 50p Link to post Share on other sites
Kingy 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 QUOTE (brianmole @ Oct 25 2005, 09:34 AM) QUOTE DT100s Found a pair at a car boot fair once, bloke wanted £1. We haggled, I got them for 50p Some guys get all the luck.................. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/whistling.gif Link to post Share on other sites
milhouse 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) The DT100s are very good - I own 2 pairs, but they are more for the studio, broadcasting and engineering environment. They offer a very flat frequency response - so for monitoring levels of EQ, and heariing what the music "actually" sounds like raw... and so on, they are just the job. They are also very durable (apart from the jack plug which is soldered together with something like water rather than actual solder) - so you might want to tape that up). They also don't go very loud, so might not be ideal for bars or clubs, although I have used them in a club when my DJ headphones have broken and I've got by. The problem with using a studio-based headphone such as the DT100 in a gig environment - is that because you have the front of house speakers booming out bass, highs and everything else very loud, the DT100s will just be producing the flat, raw, sound (no extended bass etc - it would sound very "middy") - you need something more when you're DJing For the DJs amongst us - I recommend the Sennheiser HD 280. Around £70 and very durable, and can go very loud for live DJing. Also have a good flat response with extended bass and highs, perfect for mixing. The earpeices also pivot so you can do the whole DJ-thing. Hope that helps! Edited October 25, 2005 by JonWhittaker Link to post Share on other sites
chris-woods.net 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 i say sennheiser all the way, i recently got a pair of sony mdr v700's cos after 3 years i fancied a change and wasnt impressed, the sound isolation is no where near as good as my hd25's! Link to post Share on other sites
transeurope 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 The DT100s are available in two Ohmages. One was originally designed for the studio engineer, the other for the live engineer. From memory I think that it is the 16ohm version that live engineers (and DJs) should opt for because of the volume requirement. I am sure that ANY dealer will be able to help with you a knowledgeable answer http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/rolleyes.gif , well, no I'm not actually but it may actually be a good test of how good a dealer is and whether they can really support what they are selling! I know many DJs have been advised to buy the wrong version, which is indefensible because they are exactly the kind of high margin item that dealers are always complaining DJs won't buy! In any case, if in doubt you can email Beyer Dynamic. They are a simply superb headphone and do last a lifetime! Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 QUOTE (transeurope @ Oct 25 2005, 03:17 PM) I am sure that ANY dealer will be able to help with you a knowledgeable answer Well, if they call it "Impedance" rather than "ohmages", they're off to a good start. I find that alot with speakers eg: "Make sure the ohmages match..." http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/wallbash.gif Still, as long as dealer and customer are speaking the same language - it doesnt really matter too much. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites
transeurope 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 It would be a good dealer that can accomodate regional dialect without comment also. Edit http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/sea...h.aspx?q=ohmage Link to post Share on other sites
jeffwall 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 perhaps im being a bit part timish and un professional here, but just wondered as a 25 quid sony user, does the head phones make a lot of difference? What i mean is, is it worth spending a lot on phones that will do the same job nearly or very nearly than cheaper ones? Ive played loud gigs and my 25 quid sonys are excellent, blank out the background, comfy, good quality etc, If they break, no prob at 25 quid! Do the likes of sennheister make all the difference, or they better just for perfect beat maching/mixing etc? Just wondered http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites
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