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QUOTE (robbiedj @ Nov 28 2005, 07:54 PM)
I play what the customer wants. It's as simple as that.

Spot on.

 

Who are we to say what is moral and what isn't. If the client wants it then I would play it. I wouldn't let my personal feelings get in the way. If it was requested, i might ask the client if they think it is suitable or not, just as a safety net.

 

My personal feelings about GG?

 

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This may be a very emotive issue for some people.

 

I would advise caution if you are asked to play any GG. Especially at family occasions. You could leave yourself open to aggresion from some unexpected quarter. G.G. cannot be 'Got at' because he is not in this country. But by playing his music some people may associate this as support of him however innocently it was requested or played. You as the DJ then become a focal point of these feelings. It may be direct, but most likely it will be your van or car that will suffer.

 

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Yep, a difficult one.

The aforementioned Rock And Roll Pt.2 could possibly be slipped in without too many people knowing who did it.....

 

If one of his songs was requested I'd play it, but make it known it was a request - simply because I wouldn't want people to get the impression I didn't give a monkey's about what he's been up to.

 

But the thing is, his music represents a product of a highly transitional time for pop music, and should really be given the appropriate regard, along side the others of the 'glam rock' period. It wasn't his music which committed the offences, after all.

 

I'd suggest keeping our personal views out of it, and play the music if requested - which might not be for a while yet!

 

So, any of you lot played any of his music in the last month or so, and what was the reaction? http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif

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I have read the other thread on G.G. and there are several mentions of abuse towards the DJ when playing G.G.

 

If you employ Dj's then you would have to do a risk assessment on types of music or artists that could possibly cause agression or abuse. Your employee could take action against you if this has not been done.

 

The choice is up to you if its your own business.

 

There are many other implications to consider to.

Emotional upset. Traumatic stress etc. Might sound a bit PC but it is part of society today.

 

I think that we all need to consider our actions very carefully bearing in mind type of venue, audience etc.

 

Maybe a change to your terms and conditions/contracts? Many of you I know already have 'what music not to play sections' etc. This may help spread the responsibility if it does all go http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/attentionwhore.gif up

 

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There are many other implications to consider to.
Emotional upset. Traumatic stress etc. Might sound a bit PC but it is part of society today.

 

 

Ssssshhhhhhh don't give them ideas.

 

I've just had a preminition about the future of no win - no fee cases.....

 

Have you been hurt or injured in a accident, a slip or a fall at work, have you heard a Gary Glitter track recently?. If so you may be able to make a claim for compensation, with not one penny taken from the money you are awarded......

 

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Don't forget that the same risk assessment can also apply in other DJ Abuse situations. Such as inadvertantly, playing a rival teams traditional football anthem to a pub full of another teams supporters! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/fear.gif

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QUOTE (Andy Westcott @ Mar 4 2006, 09:12 PM)

So, any of you lot played any of his music in the last month or so, and what was the reaction? http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif

I have to admit that, until this thread came up, I'd completely forgotten about Gary Glitter's recordings. Haven't played any for years.

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I have not played anything by GG other than the Christmas hit in the past 10 years or so, not missed his tracks and am un-likely to play them as my own choice. However, if a paying customer demands it, I would play it, even though I would be reluctant.

 

I wonder if I would have dropped the significant amount of Jacko's stuff if he had been convicted. I do play several of his tracks and feel he has made a much bigger musical contribution than GG ever did.

 

 

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Do a risk assesment, better to upset one person by not playing GG than upset many of the other guests by playing it. Anyway is he such a loss to the music, I think not - mick

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No Chance what so ever of me playing him... http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/scared.gif

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I know we are dragging this up again, but have to confide in you all my amazement from sat night.....

 

I went to see a band in Ashford (kent)....... They were ok, and they played A Glitter song, now off the top of my head I cannot remember what one it was (usless brain), but the whole pub was singing along and dancing, more so than I have ever seen!!!

 

Crazy eh!

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Gary Glitter.

 

Who'd wanna be in his gang anyway?

 

I dont play Gary Glitter nowadays. he's completely sick. I dont get any requests for him..... if they ask ill say i havent got it...... even though i have.

 

or say to them Who's Gary Glitter? http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif

 

 

 

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I think that a number of people who have posted in this thread have forgotten what brings us all to this forum.

 

We are djs. We take a group of people to a different world, where nothing bad ever happens and life is great fun. We are not politicians, we are not judges. Personally, I too am sickened by what Gary Glitter has done, but if we start to decide whose tracks we are going to play based on their social history we will never play anything!

 

If the audiences want to sing along to 'my gang' then play it and let them. Our opinions are not what our audiences pay us for, they pay us for entertainment.

 

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If you play his music , does he get the royalties from it?

 

Personally I don`t get asked for it . I wouldn`t play it if I did. To be convicted once is bad, but to do it again NO NO.

 

ROT IN HELL GLITTER.

Steve

 

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If you play his music , does he get the royalties from it?

 

Interesting Question, but from our prospective I think the answer would be no, unless you log every track you play, and then pay £0.001p for every track played to PPL or BPI, otherwise how would they know what you've played http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/533.gif .

 

Radio Stations are another matter, they do I believe log every track played and pay royalties based on their logs, so I would guess that if they did play his music, then he would be getting so much in royalty fees.

 

As the debate continues, This is an interesting article

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I had the PPL at one of my gigs one . They recorded every track I played. Do they take an avererage and assume every venue is playing the same tracks as I did to work out how much an artist gets paid or do they get around all the venues with a PPL licence?

Steve

 

5 European cups and 18 leagues, that`s what we call history.

 

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Perhaps an interesting question would be: If Mr Glitter had behaved himself, would any of us play:

 

Rock & Roll, Pt. 1

Do You Wanna Touch Me (Oh Yeah)

I'm the Leader of the Gang (I Am)

I Love, You Love, Me Love

Angel Face

Remember Me This Way

Hello! Hello! I'm Back Again

Rock & Roll, Pt. 2

Dance Me Up

Oh What a Fool I've Been http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif

Another Rock & Roll Christmas

 

 

Probably just R&R P2, and the last one for me, given the lack of dancy, up-tempo christmas tunes (that we'll be playing again in 8.5 months http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/newyear.gif ).

 

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thats an interesting article chris very much follows this thread,it is a very differcult subject which we all got individual ideas on,and we must respect each others verdict,and agree or agree to disagree, at the end of the day we all have to decide what we are comfortable with and what are guest would like to hear,if someone feels comfortable playing his songs and no one is offended by it then i have no problem with it i think we all agree child abuse is disgusting if he rots in hell no one on this forum will care,

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I had the PPL at one of my gigs one . They recorded every track I played. Do they take an avererage and assume every venue is playing the same tracks as I did to work out how much an artist gets paid or do they get around all the venues with a PPL licence?

 

I think they do, a friend of mine was at a function and the PRS were there and asked him to make a list of all songs played, when he asked why, they told him its to determine the amount of money people get, as he had made tunes in the past he made sure anything that he earnt money from was on the list

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back to the original''argument''

 

i think that as DJ's we should play what the punters want.....TO A CERTAIN EXTENT!!

i have no problem with playing glitter or whacko jacko...i meen if i decided on waht trakcs i play based on their actions in life i dont think i would have many tracks

 

 

thats my 2 cents worth!!

 

 

jules

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True enough.

 

I've got no problem with Jackson whatsoever - he was aquitted after all.

I've got a 14th coming up in a week or so, and I have been specifically asked to play Thriller and Billie Jean, so ther you go!

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