davemoody 0 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Just had a client ask what size generator I need for the weekend. Haven't got a clue. My usual rig is running a 1500w amp with tops and bass speakers. About 7 lights and the usual other stuff like console lights, mics, starcloths etc. NEED ADVICE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
McCardle 1 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 without knowing what wattage your lights are, its impossible to work it out. However I would always ask for something a little bigger than you need to give you some headroom. So I would plump for a 10kva, although i suspect that a 6kva would probably do at a push. Just make sure it won't be running the tea urns for the caterers and the marquee lights as well, assuming its a marquee "The voice of the devil is heard in our land" 'War doesn't determine who is right, war determines who is left, and you wont win this war.' Link to post Share on other sites
davemoody 0 Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 My usual lights are a vue111led, a pair of acme pumas, pair of acme jaguars and pair of ego 3s Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Westcott 0 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 And try to insist they hire in a 'proper' generator, not some single-cylinder put-put, as these tend to output a pretty unstable voltage. 10KVA as suggested would be good - your disco will probably require only 2kW at the most, but you need plenty of overhead, and as I said a bigger generator should also be of better quality. Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Marky Marc 0 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 somthing 10/12kva or bigger... regulated and with acustic protection. single phase.. these are stanadard bits of hire kit from most power hire places and come on there own trailor... the hire place will install, earth, and test this equipment before they leave you with it.. dont get the little honda type things from the tool hire shop these wont power your disco and will do damage to audio gear if they fail... <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Spear 0 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 somthing 10/12kva or bigger... regulated and with acustic protection. single phase.. I don't see him needing 50amps of capacity. Remember bigger isn't always better, they tend to get noiser and need more space and fuel. Educating the young in the ways of the old Link to post Share on other sites
davemoody 0 Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Thx for all the help. Spoke to the client and as they also have catering facilities and lighting for the marquee to sort out, between us we have decided to go fo a 25kva to be on the safe side. Fingers crossed!! Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 0 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Even if you're not having to share the generator, I'd recommend getting yourself a £30 Power conditioner. I use one from Ebuyer, which is a battery backup AND a voltage regulator/power conditioner - with a nice little display on the front to let you know what its doing. The battery backup isnt really all that important for what you want to do, but the voltage regulator features will mean that as your lights flash, or the caterers switch on their tea-urn and hotplates etc, your gear will still get a standard 220volts, rather than wildly damaging voltages which could vary considerably from 220v (until the generator revs up, or idles off). About the same size a small "Yellow Pages" and heavy, but a worthwhile bit of protection - especially when priced as less than the cost of most equipment repairs. Link to post Share on other sites
supersound dj 0 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 25kva Jesus....run a cable to my house for the excess Link to post Share on other sites
otronics 0 Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Have you got a link for your power conditioner, Gary? Oliver Head, OTronics Media Services Ltd, Covering Wiltshire, Somerset, Dorset and surrounding areas. Professional Mobile & Radio DJ PLI (£10m), PAT and DBS (Disclosure) checked Tel: 07835 485535 Email: enquiries@otronics.co.uk www.otronics.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Westcott 0 Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Quote: "bigger isn't always better" It is with generators. More fuel, yes. Noisier, possibly. Bigger, most certainly. But more resistant to load fluctuations, and a bigger machine will be designed for mains replacement, rather than powering site power tools or portable lighting. Anyhow, the DJ isn't responsible for the costs - play safe - you know it makes sense! Incidentally, I've got a marquee gig coming up where the generator is a 45KVA machine. That's to power some lighting, the bar equipment and me. Could be considered a bit over the top, but I'll trust the machine a lot more than a smaller one. Link to post Share on other sites
TopNotchEntertainment 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 well having plenty of experience in this field ..... most new gensets have power correction & filtering at 10 kva and above. thebiggest thing that will really kill of a genset is huge current shifts bass will suffer as the genset cannot give instant draw of current that an amplifier requires . i have a load calculator,,,,,.. and alway give a generous 25% margin on the size of genset required <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Marky Marc 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 most new gensets have power correction & filtering at 10 kva and above. and this is whats needed most when working with audio .. <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
TopNotchEntertainment 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 there are some god gensets ou theere at 10kva and above, but use a reputable supplier of gensets, and most definantly do NOT do it solely on the cheapest price !!! <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
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