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#1 dazzer

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:33 PM

I have just brought a HD 2500 & am confussed I have a external hard drive with all my music inside an itunes library but the music manager does not seem to find most of the files do i need to reload all the tracks on the hard drive as individual mp3 tracks?

I have also plugged my Ipod into the HD 2500 & it has only found 1600 tracks roughly out of about 10,400 any ideas what i need to do to get the all to display so I can transfer most to the unit & the rest to play though you unit via my external hard drive

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 03:38 AM

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 06:56 AM

QUOTE(Dukesy @ Jan 18 2009, 03:38 AM) View Post

Have you read this thread, read about the firmware updates and followed the tips, etc?

I have read the forum looking for information also do a firmware update when I first installed music manager ?

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:14 AM

Are they all in MP3 format or in the format that ITunes so often uses?

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 10:09 AM

QUOTE(Tonsk @ Jan 18 2009, 09:14 AM) View Post

Are they all in MP3 format or in the format that ITunes so often uses?


oh I guess they must be in the format itunes uses is there any easy way to change this


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Posted 18 January 2009 - 01:35 PM

http://www.apple.com...1/06itunes.html

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iTunes offers customers a simple, one-click option to easily upgrade their entire library of previously purchased songs to the higher quality DRM-free iTunes Plus format for just 30 cents per song or 30 percent of the album price. The iTunes Store will begin offering eight million of its 10 million songs in Apple’s DRM-free format, iTunes Plus, today with the remaining two million songs offered in iTunes Plus by the end of March.



Don't try to decode/re-encode as MP3.. The quality will suffer.

Whilst I detest DRM - it appears early adopters lose out again.

On 7Digital, the very few DRM files I've had to aqquire for a gig have automatically been upgraded to DRM-Free MP3 (for no charge).



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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:40 AM

QUOTE(vokf @ Jan 18 2009, 01:35 PM) View Post

http://www.apple.com...1/06itunes.html
Don't try to decode/re-encode as MP3.. The quality will suffer.

Whilst I detest DRM - it appears early adopters lose out again.

On 7Digital, the very few DRM files I've had to aqquire for a gig have automatically been upgraded to DRM-Free MP3 (for no charge).


oh The only option I have found is to convert tracks into mp3 via itunes but you can only do this individually are you saying this is not worth doing due to quality?

As I have imported most of my cd collection over 10,000 tracks to intunes & it took a while what if I converted them via Itunes & then used mp3 Gain I am not sure if it will help as I have never used mp3 gain before?

Any Help appriated or is the only real option to reload all of my music in to itunes from the start.

Thanks to all that have responded so far.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 10:02 AM

If you purchased the music from iTunes, then they will be in DRMed, AAC format (and possibly some Non-DRM AAC format). AAC is basically Applies version of MP3 - not compatible, but does roughly the same job of making audio files smaller.

Think the good old days of VHS, and if you ever tried to copy a Video - the quality gets worse with each copy.
This is effectively what will happen to your music. It will decode to one format, and then re-encode to another. Each system is "lossy", and so some audible loss will occur.

Try a few tracks and try a "blind" test (get someone to play the original, and the re-encoded MP3), listen via headphones and see if you can spot the difference.


The best way to ensure you retain quality, is to try to get them to WAV files. These will be large (around 40MB each), but they will not lose quality from the conversion of AAC. If you rip from CD's, using WAV files will provide the best quality (better than high-bitrate MP3)
I'm not sure if you can convert to WAV in iTunes - or even if you are allowed as part of the AUP? Something to check for!

Your 10,000 files will not fit on your Denon HDD, but I think you can upgrade(?), or use an external USB drive.
You could try PMing Gary (Denon guru) for help.

Its worth remembering that none of the HD Controllers will play DRM files -this isn't a Denon only problem.





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