Speakers On The Floor

[MicMac 0]

Hi all... :djuhi:

 

I started my career putting my speakers on the floor, yet I found this seemed to seriously interfere with microphones when doing karaoke. (When punter lowered speakers I inevitably got serious feedback, so I have started putting them on their stands, however I often read posts on here where many of you seem to put them on the floor.

 

what am I doing wrong???

 

The quest continues :hphone:

[spirito 0]

If you put them on the floor you get more bass, however as soon as dancefloor fills your high fequency woill get swallowed up and you will need to turn it up louder.

 

This is why bass bins go on the floor and tops go on stands as high frequency does not tracel through people.

 

If your having trouble with feedback i would seriously look at the mics you have as well as cheapo mics are really bad for feedback.

 

Also move the speakers so karaoke singers are slightly behind the speakers (not in front)

[High Fidelity 0]

We're all different aren't we.

 

I always go for speakers on the floor where possible. I prefer it if the sound gets swallowed up/absorbed by the dancers on the floor. Makes it quieter for the people who want to chat instead of dance.

 

However, it all depends on the venue, and I probably do about 50/50 floor and stands.

 

If I'm doing karaoke though, they're always on stands.

 

Each to his own.

[RonanRaver 0]

If you are on the stage well then put the speakers on the stage floor will be hitting the punters at head height..Thats what i would do if i didnt have bins.Or put the speakers on stands to the side of Stage.

 

[YourBigEvent 0]

If you buy that 100w speaker you are on about in the other post, it doesn't matter where you put it, nobody will hear it anyway !! tongue out icon

[Andy Westcott 0]

Quote High Fidelity:

"I always go for speakers on the floor where possible. I prefer it if the sound gets swallowed up/absorbed by the dancers on the floor. Makes it quieter for the people who want to chat instead of dance."

 

My sentiments too - I like the way the sound 'mellows' slightly as the floor fills up. There is also the safety aspect of having speakers on stands: I don't know of any instances where they've toppled over, but I just feel much happier with floor standers - in my case this puts the tweeters pretty much at ear level anyhow.

 

Regarding the initial feedback issue, yes, cheap microphones have a peaky response which can make feedback a real problem, as can cheap speakers. If you have a decent mic like the '58 but are still having problems, this could be down to two reasons:

 

Educate your singers to sing right into the mic, not a foot away; This way you can reduce the gain and avoid feedback.

 

Set the speakers in front of the singer, so the mic can't 'see' the HF horns in your speakers.

[MicMac 0]

all top advice here

 

Given the positioning of the venue it is difficult to put speakers in front of the singers.

 

I am still experimenting with everything my mixer and amp can do, so when I get my next gig (not the resident), I shall try them on floor.

 

As for the one 100watt Warfdale speaker, I figured I could upgrade this (to two), however it dosn't look like rest of set up is much cop, so I still await an oppertunity to get down to Torquay....Seems a million miles away at moment...

[shakermaker 0]

I find just lately that I am putting my JBL's on the floor (because they are too flippin' heavy to put on tables anyway) and I have my DB Tech actives on stands behind them from the monitor output on the mixer...sounds nice too.

[Welsh Audio Man 21 0]

I find just lately that I am putting my JBL's on the floor (because they are too flippin' heavy to put on tables anyway) and I have my DB Tech actives on stands behind them from the monitor output on the mixer...sounds nice too.

 

If your DB's are the opera series, they are best as tops anyway, as they are meant for vocal/top..etc.

 

I put my DB's on tripods, and bins on the floor infront of them

[Jimbo55 0]

Make sure the gain on your mics is not to high. Encourage your singers to hold the mic close to their lips almost touching them with the mic. Use a good feed back rejecting mic, Behringer for cheapness and the legendary SM58 as the standard. Cut the bass on vocal mics (you may have a 75hz filter on your desk). Use an equalizer to notch out any problem frequencies, 15 band is good, 32 is better, a compressor/limiter can help.

 

Proper setting up will cure most if not all problems. Good mics will cure most of what is left. EQ's will take care of any building acoustic issues (and a Bose L1 system will cure 99.9% of feedback issues :joe: )

 

When set up correctly you should be able to get within a couple of feet on most speaker systems.

 

Jimbo

[Steve_Mitchell 0]

My speakers are the stands..