otronics 0 Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Will we all have to go digital in the future? By that I mean not using CDs or similar (or maybe just for backup) and using a HDC (hard disc controller) or laptop/computer to play digital music files (mp3s or similar). Made this as a poll as well to see who is using what at present (thought there was one but couldn't find it and thought some current results would be useful). The poll is for your primary playout source by the way - I know many use both for backup purposes. Oliver Head, OTronics Media Services Ltd, Covering Wiltshire, Somerset, Dorset and surrounding areas. Professional Mobile & Radio DJ PLI (£10m), PAT and DBS (Disclosure) checked Tel: 07835 485535 Email: enquiries@otronics.co.uk www.otronics.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites
Robster 0 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 err CD 's are digital :hide: tongue out icon I think in the future say 10 years time this might be the case CD is a fairly old technology now and there will be niches of DJ's as there is with vinyl using CD. But i think the masses will go "digital" mainly because i predict in ten years time shops actually selling CD's will be far and few. I believe most people will have DVD or blu ray burners in there computers (computers which will become like kettles ....cheap and nearly everyone has one )so if the do use discs for a performance it will be thousands potentially with blu ray million of tracks onto one disc. For the short term i'm sticking with CD and CDG but i love computers too i have no bias towards any ..apart from paying for licences(oh no not that again..lol) Rob Star EntertainmentsFacebook pagelandline 0161 265 3421Mobile: 0777 99 777 26 Link to post Share on other sites
deejaymitch 0 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I think you should add "both" as a poll option. I expect there are a number of DJs who would rather stick to one or the other but are forced to use both as they have large numbers of legally acquired CDs and MP3s, and have to use both separately to avoid paying for the immoral ProDub license. I'm a DJ based in Northern Ireland with nearly 10 years' experience offering a range of services. Including club residencies, karaoke, pub quizzes, specialised wedding service, Master of Ceremonies, Compere, Night at the Races and much more. Link to post Share on other sites
Spear 0 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I expect there are a number of DJs who would rather stick to one or the other but are forced to use both as they have large numbers of legally acquired CDs and MP3s, and have to use both separately to avoid paying for the immoral ProDub license. And how do they do that then!!!!!!! Clicky Clicky Educating the young in the ways of the old Link to post Share on other sites
deejaymitch 0 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 And how do they do that then!!!!!!! Clicky Clicky Use CD decks to play legally acquired CDs and a laptop/PC to play legally acquired MP3s per the ProDub people's own words: "If you just download the tracks to your computer and play the tracks from the same computer than you will not need a license as no copy has been made." That avoids the need for a ProDub license. As fpr the legality, that seems to be a very grey area which, again, comes down to way in which we are (not) regulated. If anyone can target a section of the market and make up a Mickey Mouse license to try and force them to pay twice for the same legally acquired music, then what chance have we got? I'm a DJ based in Northern Ireland with nearly 10 years' experience offering a range of services. Including club residencies, karaoke, pub quizzes, specialised wedding service, Master of Ceremonies, Compere, Night at the Races and much more. Link to post Share on other sites
Dream Catchers 0 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Well until recently I was mainly MP3 but also had CDs with me for backup and if there was something that I hadn't already ripped. I have gone back to using CDs because of the license but I have to admit that on a couple of gigs recently I have used just my MP3s. Once the PDL has fallen on its face or been proven to be either illegal or unenforcable (because of unfair clauses probably) I will return to MP3s. The only reason I am back to using CDs is I don't want to be turned away from a hotel due to misinformation. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
RonanRaver 0 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I use cds all the time and probably only once a year bring my laptop. Full Time Professional Dj and M.C. Residencies Monday & Thursday Storm Drogheda Co. Louth Friday Morrissons Co. Kilkenny Saturday Suite 54 Blackrock Dublin. Im looking for a residency on Tuesday Wednesday or Sunday gig either south or Northern Ireland. Link to post Share on other sites
otronics 0 Posted October 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 10 and 10 at the moment! Oliver Head, OTronics Media Services Ltd, Covering Wiltshire, Somerset, Dorset and surrounding areas. Professional Mobile & Radio DJ PLI (£10m), PAT and DBS (Disclosure) checked Tel: 07835 485535 Email: enquiries@otronics.co.uk www.otronics.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Westcott 0 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 CDs are in the lead!! I use CDs, but could easily be converted to a HDD controller of some sort - I'm a bit 'vulnerable' at the moment, and without wanting to start yet another debate, it is the cost of the ProDub that is making me hesitate over this. I think in 10 years or so almost all mobile DJs will be using file based systems for playback, although just as there are still vinyl users now, there will be CD users then. Link to post Share on other sites
eazy 0 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 just wondering anybody who works for radio ??? have the radio stations had to get a pro dub licence as most of them will use mp3 based material ??? Eazy Entertainment Link to post Share on other sites
RobbieD 0 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I was a late adopter of CD's (around 2001) but looking at the pole I think I'm about average having just changed to digital. I suspect that many more will be changing over in the next year now that there are excellent hardware players from companies like Pioneer and Denon. Link to post Share on other sites
Dream Catchers 0 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 just wondering anybody who works for radio ??? have the radio stations had to get a pro dub licence as most of them will use mp3 based material ??? I'm sure I read a post about the fact that because it is a "broadcast" and there is no physical connection between the MP3 playout source and the "speakers" they are exempt. Jim Link to post Share on other sites
Danno13 0 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I'm pretty sure radio stations have to have the SG6 licence, and have done for years. Thankfully we don't have to go to the hassle and expense of one of those for our use of dubbed material. Revolution Discos - Covering Midlands and the Cotswolds - 01386 898 113 - 07791 261 263 Link to post Share on other sites
eazy 0 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I'm pretty sure radio stations have to have the SG6 licence, and have done for years. Thankfully we don't have to go to the hassle and expense of one of those for our use of dubbed material. but they had to pay that when they were using cd's but they don't have to pay extra for using the new more convenient mp'3 format Eazy Entertainment Link to post Share on other sites
UKHero 0 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 just wondering anybody who works for radio ??? have the radio stations had to get a pro dub licence as most of them will use mp3 based material ??? No lol radio stations play a whole lot more than the cost of the PDL... In the old days it used to be called "needle time". A radio station pays on an expected % of possible listeners in its transmission area times the hours it plays music... The music is given to the stations FOC from guys called pluggers who want the station to play there material.... Hope this helps Nik Niks Roadshow Link to post Share on other sites
supersound dj 0 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 No lol radio stations play a whole lot more than the cost of the PDL... In the old days it used to be called "needle time". A radio station pays on an expected % of possible listeners in its transmission area times the hours it plays music... The music is given to the stations FOC from guys called pluggers who want the station to play there material.... Hope this helps Nik Magic FM Plays alot of Elvis.......cant see him puttin too many demo's in or maybe the new single "somebody dig me up" :hide: Ill get my coat. Link to post Share on other sites
eazy 0 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 No lol radio stations play a whole lot more than the cost of the PDL... In the old days it used to be called "needle time". A radio station pays on an expected % of possible listeners in its transmission area times the hours it plays music... The music is given to the stations FOC from guys called pluggers who want the station to play there material.... Hope this helps Nik cheers that clears it up basically they pay royalties for every song played thats why they stick religiously to there playlist Eazy Entertainment Link to post Share on other sites
UKHero 0 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 cheers that clears it up basically they pay royalties for every song played thats why they stick religiously to there playlist No LOL they stick to a play list due to demo graphics... Or Target Audience... There is quite a lot of time and effort put into playlists on commercial radio. Every song is evaluated for its listener potential and when it should or should not be played. Many stations work on A Star A B and C An A Star for a top 40 Local would be a song that has hit the chart in the top 10 or is rising up the chart. an A is a song that is static in the chart or has started to fall but still selling strong. B is a song that is falling from the chart but is still a popular tune and C is anything else that falls under the station playlist criteria such as gold or album track etc.... An A star would always follow a prolonged brake from music say out of the news or after an ad break or at a junction where potential listeners would tune out. Hope this helps Nik Niks Roadshow Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Ramon 0 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 No lol radio stations play a whole lot more than the cost of the PDL... In the old days it used to be called "needle time". A radio station pays on an expected % of possible listeners in its transmission area times the hours it plays music... The music is given to the stations FOC from guys called pluggers who want the station to play there material.... Hope this helps Nik 100% Vinyl, it's like garlic bread the future, ***** I can even buy 7" record boxes on ebay now, never had it so good! Link to post Share on other sites
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