Gary 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 QUOTE (adenondj @ Feb 21 2004, 03:09 PM) i have one, my dad has 2 and i intend to buy another.... the denon beats the pioneer all the way i would strongly recomend you dont get the pioneer, and especialy not this dvd thing theyre doing? the dn-s5000 is the ulitmate cd turntable and i recomend it to anyone! Good sentiments...however, you wont need to worry about DJ's buying the new Pioneer DVDJynx-1 player... at £5000 (GBP) for a pair (and you still need a video mixer as well for smooth video fading etc), I dont think many DJ's will bother. There has been a Numark DVD DJ-deck (Loosely aimed at DJing) which does some basic DVD playing, but the pitch increments are only whole 1% steps, and theres no back-cueing option...if you miss "that" beat, its time to rewind and try again...oh but its a fraction of the cost of the Pioneer deck. Link to post Share on other sites
adenondj 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 QUOTE (Gary @ Feb 21 2004, 02:23 PM) QUOTE (adenondj @ Feb 21 2004, 03:09 PM) i have one, my dad has 2 and i intend to buy another.... the denon beats the pioneer all the way i would strongly recomend you dont get the pioneer, and especialy not this dvd thing theyre doing? the dn-s5000 is the ulitmate cd turntable and i recomend it to anyone! Good sentiments...however, you wont need to worry about DJ's buying the new Pioneer DVDJynx-1 player... at £5000 (GBP) for a pair (and you still need a video mixer as well for smooth video fading etc), I dont think many DJ's will bother. There has been a Numark DVD DJ-deck (Loosely aimed at DJing) which does some basic DVD playing, but the pitch increments are only whole 1% steps, and theres no back-cueing option...if you miss "that" beat, its time to rewind and try again...oh but its a fraction of the cost of the Pioneer deck. but.... but..... denon Paul ''king'' Denon D.J. for life Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisPointon 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 I don't see why "Denon" should be above the rules on this forum just because of whom he is associated with, I prefered to deal with the gentleman in question, as I would tend to deal with anybody else who thought that it was okay to post links to or containing any adult or obscene material on here, especially since it would be me, personally, who would be liable for any fall out from it. I had also noticed that his signature had been edited to remove his full name and position at Denon, before the link had been posted! - Coincidence?. Gary, would you have wanted your Children to accidentally come across such material when browsing the internet? - especially when clicking a link professing to be promoting an "innocent" subject such as Denon Equipment, which would be of course be of interest to all ages - especially the younger members. This forum is advertised as a safe place to visit for all age groups and will remain so, I really don't see why we should allow a person with a handful of posts to jeopordise that. There is enough of this material around the internet and sent via email without us promoting it on here. To my knowledge there was no warning given on the post, to warn against the other material contained on the website and that is just plain irresponsible. I would have to wonder at the reason why innocent material and that of a more adult nature was even sharing the same space and freely accesible to all ages without any form of age disclaimer. I believe that adult hosting has some very strict guidelines, it is certainly forbidden on our hosts without a licence and some form of password protection / disclaimer. Since you have indeed linked to safe PG rated video material containing similar information, I would have to wonder at Why "Denon" wasn't aware of these and didn't provide the same links??. Surely being associated with DENON itself, he is more than capable of providing links to genuine video material contained on Denon Webspace and knowing their existance?. Many younger members have disclosed their age at some point on their posts, and it is evident to even the occasional vistior that we have a large number of under 16's visting the forum. Had I have posted something like this - then no doubt that I would have been heavily criticised - you should see the amount of complaints that I receive from people regarding the amount of swearing that goes on here. People do complain, and take serious exception to this sort of thing. Luckily Karen edited the post quickly, however had our host been made aware of this issue or any formal complaint have been made, then I could be facing immediate termination of the hosting account - forums have been closed in the past for far less of a reason. Where do we draw the line at any "exceptions"?? - Would you prefer pornographic material to be here?, If you prefer, then I'm happy to cover the site in porn popups, the traffic it creates is more than enough to make it worth my while. To say that i'm seriously annoyed at this point, would be an understatement. Link to post Share on other sites
DENON 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Chris, I really don't know what the fuss is all about. My original link was 100% genuine to demo videos and neither of porn nor does it have links to adult sites! There is one video that may be considered inappropriate for minors, (which is password protected anyway) but even that video is suitable for public television like BAYWATCH. The girls in the gallery are CAR MODELS with clothes on, no nudity whatsoever. I would never post links to porn or adult sites, please people. Thanks for your understanding. Link to post Share on other sites
kazzachi 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 (edited) Hold fire! The reason I edited was because anything of a "hot babe" nature to me doesnt warrant investigating to see how hard/soft core it is... By the very fact that the link is accessed by a password would, in my opinion, give any minor the incentive to investigate further! Any link of this nature will be removed by myself and other mods im sure - and crispy doesnt have to go "public" explaining himself. It is his forum and his rules. Lets not get into a heated debate about it - just respect that what one person may see as "tame" may seem totally out of order to a parent and those taking the responsibel role of trying to keep out any level of porn on the already overrun www!! Right then, these denon cd players... are they the brand new ones retailing at approx £275 plus vat? If so, I can happily report that Del took them out to road test at the uni last night and rates them very highly. Whether you choose denon or pioneer its personal taste.... just because you own one make doesnt make it better than another - this comes from me, who incidentally owns both denon and pioneer! Edited February 21, 2004 by kazzachi WE LOVE KAREN, AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE HER BACK !!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Link to post Share on other sites
DENON 0 Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 kazzachi, With all due respect, I'm sorry but your wrong. The reason the link is password protected is to NOT exceed his monthly bandwidth, as it is a very large file. The content is safe enough to view on public TV, sorry. Who else other than YOU actually seen the page to verify my good intensions? Link to post Share on other sites
Dukesy 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 QUOTE (chrismk @ Jan 19 2004, 10:29 PM) but who in the blue heavens is going to really use DVD mixing, I cant think of anything more boring than having screens all over the bloody place. Just to pick up on this earlier comment. For the DJ only orientated performer - yes, there is no point getting the new X1 Pioneer's or similar. However, as a Pro mixer and Karaoke entertainment provider, I would consider it a natural progression (Video DJ). The only major drawback is the current price tag. I'm looking at the latest developments in this field to see who will match the technology and clever extra's for a better rate of VFM - including Denon and other manufacturers. The market for this type of entertainment will depend on the entertainers fee of course, and it would not be worth venturing into if no-one wanted to pay the fee!!! But there is no reason why a mobile entertainer couldn't provide 'systems' as seen in clubs - by far, there are many mobile jocks using club-style technology already, say, for example, lasers. Apart from the format (and price tag), DVD mixing is just another form of mixing with extra knobs!!!! Looks fun to me! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/smile.gif Link to post Share on other sites
kazzachi 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 (edited) Denon.... Can you show me where in my post I wrote anything about bandwidth? Did you read the post properly before telling me that my opinion is wrong? Being a mother of 3 children - one of whom is a teenager, I can tell you with 100% certainty that if a teen comes across a site with a link to anything that is "password protected" - the first thing that will be done is to gain access to see what the forbidden fruit is. Whether the "models" linked to your site were clothed or not, the link was suggestive and as such, would appeal kids trying to look at porn sites - as I said "hot babes" is synonomous with "porn" on the www. Perhaps responsible, protective parents such as myself, would deem any link with a "hot babe" description not suitable for the younger surfer. I did say that I did not deem it necessary to even bother to look at the link in question - word association and all that. Im also interested why your "good intentions" of including a link to what could be deemed as a "porn site" (due to the wording) are beneficial to anyone? If your target market is people who would be interested in seeing "dolly birds" on cars then I dont think that says a lot for denon! Fortunately though, all my denon products are bought from people who dont think I need to be inticed to buy them because they show "hot babes" on a web site to get my interest! I am sure I dont have to tell you that an "opinion" CANT be WRONG - it is my opinion, and however much you might disagree, it is my opinion and I find it very bold of you to tell me it is wrong. Edited February 22, 2004 by kazzachi WE LOVE KAREN, AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE HER BACK !!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Link to post Share on other sites
kazzachi 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Can we please get this topic back on track..... Wasnt is supposed to be about PIONEER - great strategy though Denon! WE LOVE KAREN, AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE HER BACK !!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Link to post Share on other sites
adenondj 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 QUOTE (DENON @ Feb 21 2004, 07:21 PM) Chris, I really don't know what the fuss is all about. My original link was 100% genuine to demo videos and neither of porn nor does it have links to adult sites! There is one video that may be considered inappropriate for minors, (which is password protected anyway) but even that video is suitable for public television like BAYWATCH. The girls in the gallery are CAR MODELS with clothes on, no nudity whatsoever. I would never post links to porn or adult sites, please people. Thanks for your understanding. silvio lets be honest here mate, by editing your post and removing the link they are not having a dig at you. weather it be bakini models or anything its still adult material you should have been more carefull when posting links and thought about what you were posting to. why not use the profit you are making off one s5000 and create a website wich you can put denon videos that anoyone on the s5000 forum makes thats worth showing the public? then things like this can be avoided. karren as a perent of 3 has a fair right to want her children to be protected against such thing, i know that i wouldent (hypetheticly thinking im only 17 and dont have kids) want my children to beable to access material of this nature, and anyone over 13 has learnt how to hack past a password in intrenet explorer! now lets get back on to the topic, i dont want to fall out with anyone i just think maby we should all calm down and be friends were all adults here (exept me) and we all have a intrest in djing wether we be experienced jocks like karen trade professionals like silvio or wannabe loosers like my good self! Paul ''king'' Denon D.J. for life Link to post Share on other sites
Dukesy 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Talking of Pioneer....wait till you see the new surprise they launch......that'll be interesting on the forum debates!!!!! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif Link to post Share on other sites
adenondj 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 QUOTE (discodirect @ Feb 22 2004, 12:05 PM) Talking of Pioneer....wait till you see the new surprise they launch......that'll be interesting on the forum debates!!!!! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif theyre gonna charge you twice the amount and the platter will spin? Paul ''king'' Denon D.J. for life Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Exactly (he said hopefully, but not expecting much)...we've had risque'r stuff on here in mere signature blocks/avatars.;) The topic was, if I recall, was "has anyone tried the Pioneer CDJ1000 mkII?" In short, if you've tried the 5year old mk1, you dont need to try the mk2. The differences are slight. *An extra pitch range on the pitch slider * A silver ring around the platter * slightly brighter display (for djing in bright situations) * The digital out on the mk1 only worked with the pitch control at Zero, this has been resolved on the mk2 ;digital out works at any pitch. *The software/firmware encompasses all 4 software debug revisions of the mk1's various incarnations. If looking at some kind of tabletop platter'ed cddeck, do indeed compare the mk2 with the DN-S3000, or better still the DN-S5000, both cheaper, and more functional than the Pioneer mk2, . But its all down to personal taste of course, so try to get a "hands on" if at all possible. Link to post Share on other sites
Dukesy 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Just to add to Gary's excellent info.... For multi-format mixing (DVD, CD, CD/R CD/RW) Look out also for innovative products like the Numark DVD01 - another DVD mixing system priced currently at around $1100.00 - with apparently more or less the same features of the Pioneer X1..... but with a lot more to offer than Pioneer's £999.99inc VAT price tag (Seim-official UK launch April 04)! Apparently, the CDJ100mkII can be purchased as low as £599 per unit if anyone wanted to hunt around the length and bredth of the UK (but there may be hidden small print - at your own risk!!!) Looks like 2004 will be good for the consumer, eh Gazza! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/smile.gif Link to post Share on other sites
adenondj 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 QUOTE (chrismk @ Jan 19 2004, 09:29 PM) Ok, Im looking at the denon s5000 single units (Im not into rack mounted players) and the price is not that much cheaper, one thing loking at the denons right now is those large pause/play buttons, are they easily pressed as i can see a few mishaps is so. The plus isde has got to be the replaceable drive unit and could easily be changed by the look of things in a matter of say 2 minutes tops. Pity it doesnt have a IEC socket on the rear, maybe the newer production run has? Another annoying thing on ALL these single CDJs is there dispays are flat, they should have manufactured them on a 45 degree angle for easier eye contact I see Pioneers VDJ has the display angled, but who in the blue heavens is going to really use DVD mixing, I cant think of anything more boring than having screens all over the bloody place. I'll keep adding as I go and thanks for these prompt replies so far, really swell. the display on the s5000 is angled inside the unit, its very well readable i have one, kingy has 2 and gary has about amillion, they are great buy them now!!! Paul ''king'' Denon D.J. for life Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_Kray 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 QUOTE (adenondj @ Feb 22 2004, 01:50 PM) the display on the s5000 is angled inside the unit, its very well readable i have one, kingy has 2 and gary has about amillion, they are great buy them now!!! Don't forget i have 1 to http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/533.gif Link to post Share on other sites
C.S 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Cough Cough http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/whistling.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/whistling.gif I will try anything,once! The Cornish will arise again ! Manager of the Andy Harris Fan Club. Keep pasties Cornish Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_Kray 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites
Gary 0 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 QUOTE (adenondj @ Feb 22 2004, 01:50 PM) i have one, kingy has 2 and gary has about amillion, they are great buy them now!!! Welllll not quite millions of 'em... I've got 2 x DN-S5000's, 1 x DN-D9000, 1 x DN-2600F, all in all it means I can cue up 10 CD tracks, (26 including Hot Starts) across 6 CD's simultaneously; great for live "instant request" from the dance floor. As soon as I get the 19inch rack tray for my DN-X1500 mixer, I'll put up a photo. Link to post Share on other sites
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