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More importantly, if girls start pole dancing on the L1, is it considered impolite to ask for their phone number?? http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif

 

I always put on Pon De Replay and invite them to come and have a seat. On the B1s.... http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE (Rendezvous @ May 5 2006, 10:25 AM)
More importantly, if girls start pole dancing on the L1, is it considered impolite to ask for their phone number?? http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif

Your wife would probably be able to answer that question for you Richard.

 

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.... My first glimpse of the famous Bose Pa which some of the guys on here already have.

I decided to take my lunch break in Bristol today, whilst there I had a quick browse around the local music store. Over in the corner by all the large speakers was the Bose pas system.

I was very interested at having a good look at the system as it has had great reviews from this forum.

 

My first thought was that it looked a nice neat set up, I wasnt too sure if the base stand that is attached to the speaker looked bulky and very heavy?

I loved the small sub/bass speakers that sat next to it they seem nice and compact and ideal to fit into a small car.

I didnt get to hear the system as I had to be back at work but overall I did like the whole look of the system, it was just the price tag that would put most people off. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/smile.gif

DJ Frankie Knuckles.

 

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This morning I have arranged a trip into Salford, Manchester next week to put the system through its paces. They do an interest free credit option too. Hmmm.....

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Aren't you glad they abolished pole tax?

 

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QUOTE (Chris_Pointon @ May 4 2006, 01:20 PM)
the designer behind the Bose PAs System. according to the article he also designed the Bose MA12's too, which may suggest that Gary could have provided the glimmerings of an idea!. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/smile.gif

Theres a first time for everything... http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/rolleyes.gif

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The question was asked if B1's Bass bins could be used to continue if the L1 (the vertical Radiator) was damaged.

 

The B1's are designed as Bass bins so i expect the answer to that is no. Next time I set them up I will try it.

 

Also if 'Normal' speakers could be used in the event damage to the L1

 

I received this reply from Hilmar At Bose.

 

"Unfortunately the answer is "sort of".

 

First of all, damage to L1 is exceedingly rare. It seems the L1 is extremely

difficult to damage and so far I haven't seen a single driver failure (and there are hundreds of thousands drivers out there in the field).

 

If it actually would happen, you could plug one or two passive speakers into the AMP1 and AMP2 out as longs they have an impedance of at least 4 Ohms and can stomach at least 250 Watts. However, these outputs have custom EQ's designed for the L1, so the overall system voicing would be wrong. The EQ is not terribly agressive, so it may work okay for an emergency situation but depending on the speaker it may not sound particularly good.

 

Hope that helps

 

Hilmar"

 

Jimbo

 

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Bose L1 system user.

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This may be of interest to those who are sceptical about the strength of the P.A.S.

 

Taken from the Bose P.A.S forum.

 

"Lastly, I was also very impressed with the PAS' ability to take a direct hit from a stupid drunk drunk drunk guest who went stumbling across the floor and thought the speaker could break his fall. No, it just went with him but kept playing. I couldn't believe the hit it took without any damage visible at all. I hate open bars."

 

Jimbo

 

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Bose L1 system user.

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I presume the answer is 'no' then? The PAS is a very solidly assembled unit. To quote one of the Bose staff: "As far as I know, replacing an L1 hasn't been neccessary yet, so I'm actually not sure whether we have service price for that yet."

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There are concerns raised about the vulnerability of the panel on the the Bose forum. A few have even designed simple flaps to protect this. I agree it is an area that could be improved.

 

Jimbo

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Bose L1 system user.

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QUOTE (Rendezvous @ May 8 2006, 08:23 PM)
Going by your reasoning, powered speakers like the Mackie, JBL, Meyer and all of the others are patently unsuitable for professional use because they are all in one unit and their control panels are exposed and at drinks height.

 

In short Richard, whilst I wouldn't rule out the PAS from a shortlist, if its still around whenever my speakers need replacing, theres no denying that it has a very high "All thyne eggs in one basket" ratio compared to the typical powered speakers which you mention above.

 

A powered speaker will typically have just one solitary amp in it. Even though a speaker on a pole is at a height which is usually the correct side of gravity to avoid falling alcohol, if the worst came ot the worst, whatever happens to that unit, the user would have to be really unlucky for a fault in that unit to effect the other speaker, at the other side of the set-up stage etc.

 

Why I feel that the "All eggs in one basket" label applies so much more to the PS-1, than the typical powered speaker, is that the PS-1 has not 1, but in fact 4 electical units within it, namely; all 3 amplifiers and the built-in version of the system controller. Just like the TV/VCR/DVD combo's of the 90's, and CDMix1/2/3's etc. Hopefully all 3 amps will have separate power supplies, even though they all share a single power connector - until SuperstarDJ gets hold of one, we'll probably never know how many common components are shared within, if any.

 

If each of the PAS's 3 amps were drop-in user-replaceable modules, then of course, the conscientious user, desiring better than average peace-of-mind, could choose to carry just one spare bose drop-in amp, as a cost-effective remedy to all kinds of potential situations which I am certain you wont claim could never, ever occur. After all, we all thought that the absurd, outlandish and somewhat erotic notion of the remotest possiblity of girls using the PAS for pole dancing was a bit of far-fetched fiction, yet within the first month of Brian owning his...

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After all, we all thought that the absurd, outlandish and somewhat erotic notion of the remotest possiblity of girls using the PAS for pole dancing was a bit of far-fetched fiction, yet within the first month of Brian owning his...

 

No, that is exactly why I bought the PAS.

 

 

 

 

Seriously though, the unit is very robust, and absolutely no damage ensued. There is another distinction to be made: I would not buy full range powered speakers because the bass shakes the electronics, and this causes malfunctions. This is different with the PAS, because the electronics are separate from a destructive bass element. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/cool.gif

 

Has BigBen managed to hear/see one yet BTW?

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QUOTE (brianmole @ May 9 2006, 11:57 AM)
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After all, we all thought that the absurd, outlandish and somewhat erotic notion of the remotest possiblity of girls using the PAS for pole dancing was a bit of far-fetched fiction, yet within the first month of Brian owning his...

 

No, that is exactly why I bought the PAS.

 

 

 

 

Right...I'm telling Mrs Mole.... http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/attentionwhore.gif http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/sterb188.gif

 

Brian, at the SEDA meeting (which clashes with the NADJ AGM Show), can you put forward the idea of either a 3metre PS1 to L1 lead, or (L1 to speakon adaptor and a PS1 to speakon adaptor - which would allow a normal speakon to speakon lead to be used - Perhaps Mr Bose and Mr Bose Jnr could at least contemplate the idea of giving DJs the option of placing the PS1 more out of the way.

 

Some will appreciate the option, some wont - however as its an optional extra rather than something included in the box that bumps the price up, then what legitimate objection could anyone raise of adding flexibilty to an already nice product.

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Read zorgus' solution response in this forum thread, where from experience of setting up in venues with low ceilings, he recommends separating the L1's from the PS1 base, using a DIY molex extension lead, which as Brian suggests, sounds pretty straightforward.

 

For a take on PAS reliability, this particular character's band have been having issues - if you're interested to see what he has to say take a look in this thread. On the other hand, most of the other participants in the topic don't appear to have had problems (bit like anything else, really).

 

-RP

 

 

 

 

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