What A Performance

[wendyice 0]

i done a 60th party for the dad of a friend yesterday. he is an old retired club singer so i took the karaoke too and we had a brilliant day. had the floor full and he got his singing in as well.

i was informed at 5ish that another dj was due in at 6 to do the evening disco, plenty of advance notice eh?????

 

in the end he never turned up till around 7 so i was just playing on as we were all enjoying ourselves and i was doing it for free anyway, well i got a bar tab and abused it afterwards.

 

the other guy turned up bladdered drunk. dropped a light trying to lift it, literaly fell flat on his face with another light in his hands.

then he tried to stand on the table his gear was on to reach the light stand and tipped it over, roflmao.

i managed to catch him and the table just before it all crashed to the ground.

 

by this time i was wetting myself and everyone wanted me back on but i'd packed up by then.

 

went back today to see the landlady re future paid bookings and was told the guy was even more drunk by the end of the night and was awful.

 

so now i got his dates. nice one!!!!!!!!!!

[Dukesy 0]

i done a 60th party for the dad of a friend yesterday. he is an old retired club singer so i took the karaoke too and we had a brilliant day. had the floor full and he got his singing in as well.

i was informed at 5ish that another dj was due in at 6 to do the evening disco, plenty of advance notice eh?????

 

in the end he never turned up till around 7 so i was just playing on as we were all enjoying ourselves and i was doing it for free anyway, well i got a bar tab and abused it afterwards.

 

the other guy turned up bladdered drunk. dropped a light trying to lift it, literaly fell flat on his face with another light in his hands.

then he tried to stand on the table his gear was on to reach the light stand and tipped it over, roflmao.

i managed to catch him and the table just before it all crashed to the ground.

 

by this time i was wetting myself and everyone wanted me back on but i'd packed up by then.

 

went back today to see the landlady re future paid bookings and was told the guy was even more drunk by the end of the night and was awful.

 

so now i got his dates. nice one!!!!!!!!!!

 

A great example for the public to read when the profession is let down! Cheers! :Thumbup:

[UKHero 0]

Thanks for catching me I think I twisted my ankle :dan+ju:

 

I bet he was one of these sub £100 guys we hear so much about on here. lol

 

As Dukesy says & buyer beware.... He could be coming to a venue near you :devil: :lil devil:

 

Nik

[robbiedj 0]

Well really!

 

He could have waited until he got there to get drunk. No sense of timing, obviously. :ads:

 

 

 

Nice to see you profited from his performance. :good:

[andyw 0]

 

 

I bet he was one of these sub £100 guys we hear so much about on here. lol

 

 

 

Nik

 

 

sorry nik but WHY,

why is it when anyone post's something bad about a dj it gets turned into a price thing,is there any one on here willing to say they are a good dj because they charge more, or do they charge more because they offer more than the average. price is not or has it ever been a gaurantee of the quality of a service.i think we would all agree that in this instance the dj's behaviour is totally unacceptable and a bad example to everyone,it dont do anybody any good,but there is no need to label all sub £100 dj's in this bracket.

[jukeboxdj 0]

I have to agree with andy on this there was no mention of how much the dj was being paid

it was just an example of how not to run your business and was a bad show for he dj profession as a whole

 

well done wendy for not messing about and seeing the landlady as soon as and i'm sure the guy will learn eventually that he will get no work if he carries on in that manner

[UKHero 0]

sorry nik but WHY,

why is it when anyone post's something bad about a dj it gets turned into a price thing,is there any one on here willing to say they are a good dj because they charge more, or do they charge more because they offer more than the average. price is not or has it ever been a gaurantee of the quality of a service.i think we would all agree that in this instance the dj's behaviour is totally unacceptable and a bad example to everyone,it dont do anybody any good,but there is no need to label all sub £100 dj's in this bracket.

 

you may not of noticed the lol at the end of the comment but I am sorry and retract the stament if it upsets you.

 

Nik

 

[digitaldistortion 0]

Never mind how much he charged......I just hope he wasn't one of ours

 

:hurt:

[wendyice 0]

no, he seemed to be a proper beer monster, a postman in his day job i believe.

deffo not on here he'd never heard of it. i had a chat with him but never got a lot of sense lol.

i did learn tho he had been escorted from one his venues by doorstaff and someone else had to take over halfway thru the gig.

dont know why tho.

[Dream Catchers 0]

I would imagine he was in the same price bracket as wendyice. If he was in a lower one wendy would not have secured his bookings.

So what bracket are you in wendy?

 

Jim

[wendyice 0]

i have only charged them 135.00 for one friday per month. but it is my local sort of and i know the landlady and most of the punters. i used to work there when the previous management were in. only a 3 hour gig on the doorstep. minimal kit set up for 8 finish about 11 suits me.

i dont know what he charged but he is meant to be a good club dj :!:

Edited March 25, 2008 by wendyice

[UKHero 0]

I would imagine he was in the same price bracket as wendyice. If he was in a lower one wendy would not have secured his bookings.

So what bracket are you in wendy?

 

Jim

 

Not necicarilly as Wendy may have raised the bar and educated the customer, As we here so much about on here. He might and I say might have been sub £100 but the landlady has now seen that if you pay a little more you might just get a better service. Maybe Wendy is worth more than the other guy in the eyes of the landlady.. From what has been said above she would be in my eyes...

 

On the other hand and to ballance the debate he might have charged more...

 

 

Nik

Edited March 25, 2008 by UKHero

[DJ JENX 0]

Not necicarilly as Wendy may have raised the bar and educated the customer, As we here so much about on here. He might and I say might have been sub £100 but the landlady has now seen that if you pay a little more you might just get a better service. Maybe Wendy is worth more than the other guy in the eyes of the landlady.. From what has been said above she would be in my eyes...

 

On the other hand and to ballance the debate he might have charged more...

Nik

 

Well i went to my cousins engagement on the weekend. Thought, hey ill listen intently to the DJ and pick up on a few things, maybe learn something....ha!

 

What a joke, the guy, apparently runs a DJ agency and they charge £100 per booking. So they seem to get a lot of business their way. The problem is that this person absolutely ruined the night.

 

Was sober, but basically played songs that only he obviously liked. At one point he was strumming on an air guitar to some song Id never heard of. He put these mad crazy lazers on for the slow dances and nobody seemed to like his music. He was training a DJ to work for his agency!

 

He also cut songs mid way through and started another song and it sounded so stupid.

 

So yes i learned a lot, dont do 1 thing he did.

 

But if he charges 100quid per gig, he gets loads of work. MAD!

[UKHero 0]

But if he charges 100quid per gig, he gets loads of work. MAD!

 

And there in lies the problem its a rotation of

 

 

Book cheapest DJ - DJ possibly (I said Possibly) not good - other punters see Possibly (again I said Possibly) not good DJ - they come to want a DJ for there event and think all DJs are possibly (even again I said Possibly) not good so go for the cheapest - go back to the start of this paragraph.

 

and so it goes on...

 

Nik

[analyst 0]

Ah, yet again we have descended into another "flog the price-competitor" thread I see. Even without any evidence that he was a price-cutter he has now, more or less, been deemed so.

 

First, let me say that what this guy did was absolutely disgraceful, brought shame on himself and sadly, the whole DJ profession with it. Truly, if that is typical, he doesn't deserve to get another gig ever again. But lets move on . . .

 

It fell to me by rotation, to organise this years annual Christmas "street do". Yes, this is parochial small village life.

Back in April/May I booked us into a dinner dance at a distinctive, but not exclusive, hotel and restaurant across t'other side of town. So, it was mixed parties and t'was a very nice meal + disco included for £33. I'm pretty sure, that if the price had been upwards of £35 I would have had even more drop-outs.

 

On arriving, the DJ had his gear set up but he didn't appear till about 10:00pm. To be honest, it all looked a pile of :poo: both sound and lighting, but as I'm guessing I was the only other DJ in the venue of about 100 people, I'm sure I was the only one who noticed, or even glanced at it.

 

But, he did a decent job all round, his conduct was fine, he played the right music and kept the dance-floor busy, can't complain about that side. So, I got the missus to go up and ask him for a price for a "works party" she was organising soon. He quoted, right off the cuff, £95 for the night. Didn't have a business card and asked her if she had a pen and a piece of paper to write down his number. She said, he seemed convinced he was well on his way to a booking.

 

Anyway, the point is, everyone had a great night. No-one commented adversely about the DJ, or his kit - they simply didn't notice, just enjoyed themselves. I could end it there and leave you to dwell on it, but in summary: The guy was low price, his kit wasn't particularly good but no-one saw him in any different light whether he'd been charging £5 or £500. Now, I wouldn't do it for that price, but he was obviously happy.

[UKHero 0]

Anyway, the point is, everyone had a great night. No-one commented adversely about the DJ, or his kit - they simply didn't notice, just enjoyed themselves. I could end it there and leave you to dwell on it, but in summary: The guy was low price, his kit wasn't particularly good but no-one saw him in any different light whether he'd been charging £5 or £500. Now, I wouldn't do it for that price, but he was obviously happy.

 

And we can go on from that to say Book a cheap DJ, to the uninitiated there just as good I guess...

 

Why would any one pay more than £95 quid if they can get an OK DJ for that or less... I know guys around here do it for £70... I am not bashing the guys who are starting out we all had to start somewhere. My first gig in 1981 was for £15 second was for £25 so in 26 years the lower paid booking around here has gone up by about £70 Thats around £2.43 per year lol... I think even the state pension has done better than that.

 

Nik

 

 

 

[analyst 0]

Caution: Humour ahead!

 

 

 

So, its them pensioners that are running the cheap discos :damn:

 

I knew they were up to no good :devil:

Edited March 25, 2008 by analyst

[TonyB 0]

Why the obsession with what other people are charging? As mentioned before somewhere, there are markets for the different price ranges.

 

When I used to charge £120 a time, I lost business because I was "too cheap". Several quotes for weddings I followed up, I was told that they booked someone more expensive because they wanted a more upmarket disco. Cheap prices put some people off as they associated a higher price with higher quality.

 

I'd rather do 1 disco at £320 than 4 at £80.

 

All trades suffer the same, mechanics, electricians, plumbers, website designers (did I see someone offering to do one for £40?), computer repairs etc, etc, etc but none of the other trades seem to winge about it as much as DJ's!

 

Don't worry about what others are doing, worry about what you are doing and charge a price that you are happy with. There should be enough work to go around if you market yourself properly and provide what the client wants.

 

I get a feeling that the ones winging about being undercut are those that don't have much work and rather than look at how they can improve, blame the bottom feeders for nicking their business :dan+ju:

 

Turn your focus away from the bottom feeders and look to the DJ's earning more - how comes they do and how comes they are working nearly every weekend without worrying about being undercut?

 

So basically my message is get off your backside, get proactive and go out there and get the work. It won't come to you on a plate while you sit at home and wait.

Edited March 25, 2008 by TonyB

[exbutlinred82 0]

My mate is lead singer in A Meatloaf tribute band.We met when we both worked for the Government at £7.00 an hour during the day.Still do.We had a beer during his interval last night.

 

Got round to earnings....we are on similair earnings.We both concluded that we were never mercenary about our earnings.....(about £30 an hour for entertaining).

 

Where else can you get that AND.....Appreciation,Back Slapping,Respect,Notoriety,Free Drinks,Job Satisfaction,Exercise,Great Music (its your choice) and as many birds as you can eat??

 

 

No moan about the seven quid......not the thirty.

 

 

 

 

 

[UKHero 0]

You are all so right I have now seen the light, How silly of me... I regularly quote £250 to £350 for gigs and regularly do not get them... But hey you guys know what your talking about so I will keep on loosing work but quoting high...

 

I am sick of this argument about price I know what the market is around here I do not know what it is in Essex or the home counties, but would alude its more lucrative than Wolverhampton and the west Midlands.

 

In other boring long tit for tat posts about pricing other West Midlands DJs have concured that the situation here is very much different and very much price based....

 

But again what do i know i've only be at it 26 years maybe with a little more experience I shall be as wise as the rest of you... Thank you for your time and wisdom....

 

Oh BTW :dan+ju: :dan+ju: :dan+ju: LOL

[exbutlinred82 0]

Hey.....you can still buy a 4 bedroom terrace round here for £80,000.....

 

 

Wonder if thats a factor!!

[TonyB 0]

Well thats the opposite from what other DJ's "up north" have told me. There is lucrative work out there. Upmarket hotels and wedding venues where people want something better than a £80 DJ.

 

I suppose next you are going to tell me that no one buys upmarket cars like BMW's, Porches etc, no one buys designer gear and they all walk around in trainers and clothes from the local market, there are no upmarket area's with large detached houses where people have money.

 

I like the bottom feeder analogy, at the top of the tank there are the big fish who get first choice of the food thrown in the tank.

 

In the middle are the middle fish who pick up what the big fish have missed.

 

At the bottom of the tank are the bottom feeders fighting for the leftovers that the ones above them have missed.

 

How comes Nik that after 26 years, you are still fighting with the bottom feeders :dan+ju: :dan+ju: LOL

[UKHero 0]

Well thats the opposite from what other DJ's "up north" have told me. There is lucrative work out there. Upmarket hotels and wedding venues where people want something better than a £80 DJ.

 

I suppose next you are going to tell me that no one buys upmarket cars like BMW's, Porches etc, no one buys designer gear and they all walk around in trainers and clothes from the local market, there are no upmarket area's with large detached houses where people have money.

 

I like the bottom feeder analogy, at the top of the tank there are the big fish who get first choice of the food thrown in the tank.

 

In the middle are the middle fish who pick up what the big fish have missed.

 

At the bottom of the tank are the bottom feeders fighting for the leftovers that the ones above them have missed.

 

How comes Nik that after 26 years, you are still fighting with the bottom feeders :dan+ju: :dan+ju: LOL

 

Most popular clothes store round Here Primark, Most popular Supermarket Tesco most popular general store Poundland..

 

Look we can go on and on and on and you can abuse me as much as you like even though it is dressed up in smillies but I know this market you know yours...

 

 

 

Nik,

 

Apologies, my comment was made tongue in cheek and I'm sorry that it came across the way it did.

 

Can't add an apology to the thread because it has been locked.

 

Sorry for any bad feelings.

 

Tony

 

Thank you for your Apologie and I duly accept it.. Matter now closed

 

Nik

Edited March 25, 2008 by UKHero

[Gary 0]

I know this market you know yours...

 

 

And that quote is where I think we draw this subject to a close due to the thread being reported by a member, and the forum code of conduct about not bringing another members business practices into question.